Cheap Boxsters ... Effect on 928 Prices?
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Originally Posted by heinrich
Me too ... I ride my daughter's Barbie bike regularly, and it has purple tassles. Real men show their feminine side frequently.
Honestly, though I think cheap boxters won't harm 928's prices badly, but I think it's more likely to hurt the Lotus Elise, which currently undercuts the base boxter's price. There are some new cars that match the 928 for looks and power, but I think its going to be a long time before any of them come down in price far enough to hurt the 928 (probably by which time the 928's will have attained true classic status and go up again).
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Originally Posted by SharkSkin
I doubt there are as many "professional" Porsche mechanics bashing the Boxster as there are bashing the 928. That will be a factor IMHO.
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I doubt the Boxter will hurt the Lotus Elise. They are targeting two toatally different markets. There are absolutely zero creature comforts in the Lotus. It all about performance. The Boxter is not that way.
But I do agree that the mis-engine platform will be a grteat place to start and upgrade the HP from there. A turbo kit would be a nice ad on.
But I do agree that the mis-engine platform will be a grteat place to start and upgrade the HP from there. A turbo kit would be a nice ad on.
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I'm not sure what the pricing on those are. I met a fellow last weekend who had just bought one. He loved the attention that he got and the performance. But he was complaining about the tight interior.
Originally Posted by Flint
To each his own I guess, but I will agree about the lack of torque. Haven't driven a boxter to be able to compare, but I know the Miata is pretty well balanced (not as well as a 928, remember). It does make me glad I chose a 928 over the MGB's or Jensen-Healeys I looked at.
Honestly, though I think cheap boxters won't harm 928's prices badly, but I think it's more likely to hurt the Lotus Elise, which currently undercuts the base boxter's price. There are some new cars that match the 928 for looks and power, but I think its going to be a long time before any of them come down in price far enough to hurt the 928 (probably by which time the 928's will have attained true classic status and go up again).
Honestly, though I think cheap boxters won't harm 928's prices badly, but I think it's more likely to hurt the Lotus Elise, which currently undercuts the base boxter's price. There are some new cars that match the 928 for looks and power, but I think its going to be a long time before any of them come down in price far enough to hurt the 928 (probably by which time the 928's will have attained true classic status and go up again).
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Originally Posted by Shane
Whoa, Curt you're killing me here, you saying you plan on selling your '86.5 as well!!!?!!??!!!!
BTW, the Boxster's front trunk can hold a surprisingly large amount of groceries, but the 928 is better for carrying bulky items.
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Edit: Regarding the Elise, I don't think it plays a part in the affordable used sports car market yet (if ever). But I can tell you from my experience instructing at skills day that I find them difficult to get into and even more difficult to get out of. Probably safest to wear a helmet while doing so.
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Give it time.
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I was able to put 5-6k miles on several different Boxsters back about five yrs ago when I had my 911 & was having warrantee work done on it at Brumos. They loaned them to me while they had my car & neither of us was in any hurry. I told them I'd would be happy to put some miles on their cars. That was back when they were the 201 & 217 hp versions.
I can honestly say I enjoyed driving a Boxster around town very much. I would own one if it was the right car at the right price. Even now after having my Shark for 18 months, & I love my 928 better than ANY car I've owned or driven. I can't see saying its equal to a Miata, its a lot more car than a Miata! Those Boxsters were not slow, but still are not going to out run alot of competing sports cars. Using an auto with the Tiptronic on the steering wheel is very addicting to shift up or down with your thumb while you drive with one hand. And driving it on winding roads is a blast. With the mid engine, wide stance & long wheelbase, they stick to the road like nobodies business! I would think that the newer higher hp ones, especially the S model, would be great cars to own. I've started to buy one for my wife a couple of times. She used to say they are girls cars too, that she'd prefer a 911(who wouldnt?).
The Boxster replaced the 968 which replaced the 944. Surely the glut of Boxsters out there will have the most effect upon those models. Maybe I can finally get a 968 cab! As already said, those unfamiliar with these cars might look at a Boxster compared to a 928. Those in the know would think of them as totally different driving cars. My apprehesion of owning a Boxster is just as has been mentioned. The engine has to come out for many of the maintenance items, so it surely cant be cheap to keep one up as it begins to age. Once the factory warrantee is up, you'd better either be able to do the work yourself or have deep pockets. I know that was my hesitation when we looked at them as a possibility. I would think with the right equipment, they would be a great car to drive, I've seen a hard top version that was used as a racer that seemed like a great car for that use due to the mid engine driving characteristics.
I can honestly say I enjoyed driving a Boxster around town very much. I would own one if it was the right car at the right price. Even now after having my Shark for 18 months, & I love my 928 better than ANY car I've owned or driven. I can't see saying its equal to a Miata, its a lot more car than a Miata! Those Boxsters were not slow, but still are not going to out run alot of competing sports cars. Using an auto with the Tiptronic on the steering wheel is very addicting to shift up or down with your thumb while you drive with one hand. And driving it on winding roads is a blast. With the mid engine, wide stance & long wheelbase, they stick to the road like nobodies business! I would think that the newer higher hp ones, especially the S model, would be great cars to own. I've started to buy one for my wife a couple of times. She used to say they are girls cars too, that she'd prefer a 911(who wouldnt?).
The Boxster replaced the 968 which replaced the 944. Surely the glut of Boxsters out there will have the most effect upon those models. Maybe I can finally get a 968 cab! As already said, those unfamiliar with these cars might look at a Boxster compared to a 928. Those in the know would think of them as totally different driving cars. My apprehesion of owning a Boxster is just as has been mentioned. The engine has to come out for many of the maintenance items, so it surely cant be cheap to keep one up as it begins to age. Once the factory warrantee is up, you'd better either be able to do the work yourself or have deep pockets. I know that was my hesitation when we looked at them as a possibility. I would think with the right equipment, they would be a great car to drive, I've seen a hard top version that was used as a racer that seemed like a great car for that use due to the mid engine driving characteristics.
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I don't know if the Boxster is a girley car or not. I do know that they are one great ride in the mountains. Frankly, they are the best handling cars I have ever driven.
The other thing that seems strange to me is the attitude of some 911 folks. Don't they realize that most of the parts of both cars are the same design with only minor technical differences? Actually, the Boxster has the engine in the right place, and yes, I know all about the slow in fast out advantage of the 911. My conclusion, the're all great cars, just different.
The other thing that seems strange to me is the attitude of some 911 folks. Don't they realize that most of the parts of both cars are the same design with only minor technical differences? Actually, the Boxster has the engine in the right place, and yes, I know all about the slow in fast out advantage of the 911. My conclusion, the're all great cars, just different.
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Originally Posted by SharkSkin
I(snip)BTW, anyone know offhand the # designation for the Cayman?
987-120 to be precise. Check out any P-car dealers Cayman inventory on an official website and read the URL. There it is: 987-120 .
Tom F.
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Originally Posted by MBMB
I don't have a clue what will happen, but I hope the Boxsters coming into the market create more of a buyer's market for 928s. My life plan includes buying more 928s than I sell.
(And maybe some day, when there's a community like this for Boxster owners and somebody has produced a clear step-by-step guide to replacing the boxster engine with a 911 engine, I'll buy a boxster too.)
(And maybe some day, when there's a community like this for Boxster owners and somebody has produced a clear step-by-step guide to replacing the boxster engine with a 911 engine, I'll buy a boxster too.)
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Not to hijack, but the Lotus Elise will toast a Boxster in the thrill and handling category....not sure about speed, but many cannot say enough about the Elise at the local car get togethers. Usually 5-10 on the average show up.