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Old 03-09-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Aston Martin V8 Vantage vs. Porsche 928

Similarities to the 928 in this new car are many. And I like the design for rear hatch.

Interesting comments: "The new V8 Vantage will allow Aston Martin to go head to head with the Porsche 911".

I think they mean "Porsche 928".

http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/art...a2005&src=News
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The Aston Martin lineup represents the successors of the 928. Even the 4-door Porsche will not be anything like a 928. Sadly.
Old 03-09-2005, 09:28 PM
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Isn't it remarkable that AM can be making millions of dollars on a design philosophy abandoned by Porsche n 1995?
After looking at pics of the Vantage and Vanquish (absolutely stunning cars BTW) I can only dream about where Porsche would have taken the 928 by now. Sad to think that my next 928 will be a Vantage!

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Yea, well , if they'd left the 911 as a Volkswagen, then we wouldn't be having the conversation of why they stopped producing the 928. It would still be in present day the GT car that ALL others are compared to...which WE still do!
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Great expanses of body panels. Very high waistline. Small, narrow glass areas. Aesthetically unbalanced. Can only imagine what it must feel like to sit inside and have the window sill at ear level...

All of the above on the 928: Nearly perfect :-) (But then I'm biased)

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Default An opinion from an Aston owner...

Since I've had three Astons, I can tell you more why these two cars will be similar and the problem with any Porsche comparison....

1) The attention to detail will be similar.... there are really nice touches you notice that are quite unique on an Aston and our 928's that go far beyond convention. This said, until recently when Ford took them over, an Aston is one of the most unreliable cars ever built... a Porsche is one of the most reliable.

2) I've been trying to get my name on a confirmed list to get the AM V8... here is my prediction.... advertized base price of under $100,000.... actual purchase price to get your hands on one before 2008 may be $130,000. In fact two years ago, one Aston dealer wanted $10,000 unrefundable to get on his list with no guarantee of the price or delivery date.
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Originally Posted by Nicole
The Aston Martin lineup represents the successors of the 928. Even the 4-door Porsche will not be anything like a 928. Sadly.
Right on sister!
My father spent many years shopping for a 911 SC in the late 80's, never once looked at 928's. A friend of his handed him the keys to his 928 (no spoilers, not sure the year) to test drive. Well, dad stopped looking at 911’s after that, bought a certain brown ’81 5-speed………Funny thing is, even before the 911 shopping, his all time favorite marquee is Aston Martin – even today, any new Aston would be his lottery purchase.
Some weird soul connection between the two cars.
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Originally Posted by Malibu310

2) I've been trying to get my name on a confirmed list to get the AM V8... here is my prediction.... advertized base price of under $100,000.... actual purchase price to get your hands on one before 2008 may be $130,000. In fact two years ago, one Aston dealer wanted $10,000 unrefundable to get on his list with no guarantee of the price or delivery date.

Car and Driver is saying list is going to be more like $120K in their latest issue.
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Didn't Ulrich Bez, CEO of Aston used to work for Porsche? I thought I heard that somewhere.
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Kind of surprised to see Aston fans on the 928 web. Many think of Aston Martin's as stodgy somewhat outdated tecnology. But did you know that they mfgd a 4 valve double overhead cam 1.5 liter engine in..................... the early 20's, or that their Aston Martin V8 of the mid 70's in Vantage trim weighing about 4000 lbs and as aerodynamic as a brick went 173 mph?
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Originally Posted by Adam C
Didn't Ulrich Bez, CEO of Aston used to work for Porsche? I thought I heard that somewhere.
Yep - I wrote that in one of my posts recently. He was Porsche's engineering exectutive for some time in the 1980ies.
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I thought the V8 Vantage was supposed to be competition for the 911? With prices like these, they're competing with the 911 turbo!!!
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A M from inception 1948 ? to the year 2000 sold a grand total of 2157 cars in North America they "produce" a couple HUNDRED cars per year..... pretty much a non-event and Aston Martin and profit are two words seldom used in the same sentence
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I saw a Vanquish just the other day and I couldn't help but wonder how many of those new owners drive them beyond the city limits. I can't say if I had the quarter million to spend I'd buy one (lot of older cars I'd check out first, the old AM V8's among them) but if I did, I'd happily forego plane travel for the open road.
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Aston Martin was around long before 1948. The David Brown era started in 1948. But I'll agree they seldom made any money. If you go back to the Lionel Martin days I think they celebrated their 10,000th car in the mid 80's. It seemed that the company routinely was bailed out by wealthy owner/ enthusiasts. Peter Livanos, greek banking or shipping magnate, and Peter Sprague of Acoustic Research fame are two recent examples.
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