heinrich

OK we've awakened a monster here.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Yes best to let sleeping dogs lay or was that lie.......

bcdavis

I think all the competition and debate is what leads people to build monster engines...

If people tell Marc, or Tim, that they can't do something, they will probably do it.

So I am totally in favor of awakening the monsters.

We should probably start hassling you too Jim, so you will build some monster engine!

I don't think you can do it! I don't think you know what you are doing!
And you call yourself one of the big three! How about DR? He needs
to get a proper monster 928 of his own as well... We need to start
hassling him too!

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!



(All kidding here folks...)

Fastest928

The only thing "monster" there is a mouth.

Lagavulin

Nice collection, I agree!

But in the other thread I was referring specifically to the C5 which is a day-and-night difference compared to the C4.

800+ hp at the crank. Then again to some, that's just cracking the surface(..Supra guys for instance).

Those are nice streetable numbers too; anyone would be happy with that amount. Going over that would be just for bragging rights (..or for the challenge of doing it) since putting it down effectively becomes a real issue on a street car. The track is a different story though.

Ice, have you seen a Supra motor? It's a closed-deck iron block that will handle 1000hp with NO internal mods!

Just about every engine during the 'golden days' of turbocharged F1 racing had an iron block. The one exception that I know of is the V6 Porsche Tag which had an aluminum block, closed-deck, and nicasil cylinders.

The supercharged 4.6L Ford Cobra is an iron-block, closed-deck; I know the 2003 version are good for a 1000hp from the factory with no internal mods required.

So, not only is the 928 block aluminum and open-decked, but there's not much supporting the cylinders from the bottom. In a high-horsepower application, the tops of the cylinders are waving around like a wheat-field on a windy day. Porsche must have been aware something was amiss since they changed the block configuration on the 968 to siamesed cylinders, although it was still open-decked. Porsche admitted the open-deck was used for ease of manufacturing.

Boy, to me that would be a big waste of money! There are much better engines available to use if someone were willing to spend some bucks on a mega-horsepower ride. There is really nothing special about the 32v 928 engine to warrant keeping it around. Yank it out and store it in the corner, and drop in a 4.6L 32v Ford, or as Greg suggests, that Toyota engine looks like a great candidate too.

By the way, where are the pics of the 928 with the Toyota engine in it?

Anyone who knows me knows I love the 928; as H pointed out, money talks, bull**** walks. Look at all the money I've willingly put into my ride and have NO regrets whatsoever. Just because I'm a bit irreverent regarding the 928 doesn't mean I don't love it. I am the same way regarding the Z06 too; they're just cars!

On the other hand though, one of the greatest things regarding 928 ownership are the OUTSTANDING people I've met in a relatively short time. We have a good core team here in the Midwest! And not to mention the 928 brothers on the boards here, even if we do clunk heads together now and then; that's just part of being in a family, and the price to pay for the free exchange of ideas.


Aw man H, I was just referring to the block, and only in a high-horsepower application...

heinrich

Well good. So there we have it

bcdavis

If I wanted a 1000hp engine, I would not use the 928 engine.

I would just drop an American v8 in the car, and stuff twin turbos on it.

But an extra 100 horsepower on my street 928? You bet!

heinrich

http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2005-0...nce/duel_y.wav

Adam C

Lag - I agree with just about everything you said - I know where you're coming from now.

Group Hug?

heinrich

Or was it: http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2005-0...etty_mouth.wav

heinrich

I think Mr Murf is going to disprove that theory in short order here ....

fabric

Was this a reply to me? That was supposed to be a joke about the "dyno numbers" for comfortable passengers. Oh well.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Fabric for some there seems to be too little humor in this world. Perhaps too many Foo Dogs

bcdavis

That would be awesome!

But I'd still prefer something that is cheaper to rebuild when it comes to engines of that kind of power. Not to mention, a lot more shops that are willing to work on them, and have a lot of experience making engines with those power levels. In fact, if I was to swap an American engine into the 928, it would probably be one of those Gale Banks Twin Turbo engines...

Fastest928

fabric - ahhh, you mean the "pucker factor"! I once took a 928 owener for a 200 plus mph ride ... then found out he had a pacemaker. He didnt need that day.

Actually, if you are not aware whatis happening, 200 mph in our 928 was just a smooth constant acceleration run .. very comfortable. If you were sleeping, it would not wake you up!