darkside

Hi, Very nice work. but I agree with most. the headlights must go. I was contemplating moving mine down below the bumper in place of fogs to keep the lines. like the picture above (pierre martins) but that is irrelevant. sorry I just don't like them.

bcdavis

Pierre,

Did you ever post some finished pictures of Fat Bully, or are you still working on it?

Ron_H

I did not read the entire thread. I read Sweanders' succint comment. You asked us to be honest. I agree with Sweanders. I hate this body. I also hate the 996 body. I am disgusted by the 996 lights, which Porsche saw fit FINALLY to change on the 997. On a close to 6 figure car, a world class leader GT, Porsche installs crummy headlights which they attempt to justify by saying they save a few dollars in build costs and then again by simplifying maitenance. The 996 is not a Toyata or VW. That attitude hopefully has been flushed from Porsche's memory. And then you come along and try to tack on a weak copy of the same overall appearance which has already evolved out of Porsche's favor. The 996 period is a disgusting wart on Porsche's exemplary design history. A bad dream, including poor build quality and "trendy" aesthetics which attempt to accomodate criticism heaped on Porsche's 911 by jealous traditionalists with no other faults to find.

But I loved the original GT-1, until Porsche attempted to conform it's appearance to the 996 and destroyed its purity. And this is an abortion in the extreme.

I once went to school in Tucson, Arizona. I knew a guy from Oregon who drove around Tucson in his Chevy sedan with a surfboard on top of it. There is VERY little water in Tucson, Arizona. But surfer music was "in" and he probably thought he was "in". He wasn't. He probably couldn't swim. He defined ridiculous. This body reminds me of something he would do.

You wanted honesty.

Old & New

Looks like the front of one Porsche stuck onto the rear of another Porsche, neither of them 928's though. But as they say, there's an *** for every seat.

bcdavis

I like the idea of updating the look of the 928 though...

It was a step in the right direction.
It's an attempt to make the 928 look like a new Porsche.
It's such a great car, but the OB's especially look dated.

I think the problem with this design, is that it is focused on current
design, rather than looking at other new exotics that are just hitting
the market. If you want the 928 to look new, and look like the exotics
you really like, then make it look like one. The mechanicals are there.
It's a solid car. It just needs a little facelift to make it look comperable
to today's supercars. There will always be tons of stock 928s to keep
the "retro" look alive. There will be tons of owners who would never
think of messing with the stock design. So for those few people who
want something better, I think the design should be something that
makes you excited. Something that looks amazing, shocking, and
awesome. Not just an attempt to make it look like a 996...
Make it look like a Saleen, or a Diablo, or a Aston Martin.

Make it look exotic.

It has all the meat and bones of one.

Robert_H

I think that it would take very little to actually make the 928 look modern. It already has great bones (the style itself), it just needs a few tweaks.

Flush mounted windows
HID lights with non-fluted lenses
Seemless front and rear fascia
Make entire front section lift up (dare I say, Vette-style)
Seemless roof
All red taillights
More integrated CHMSL (center mounted brake light)
Door handles (integrated with key opening on drivers-side)
Mirrors integrated into base of "A" pillers
Body colored bumperettes

Many of the items can be done already (and have been done by some). But I really believe it would not take much. It is already a timeless design.

Rob

Ron_H

I guess I missed something here. I thought the 928 was already an exotic in its own right. If I wanted it to appear as another brand of exotic, why would I not buy one of those. There is a Boxster converted to a Carrera GT look on the C GT forum; it is a real joke IMO. The form a well designed object takes is what is suitable to its function. Duh !!!
Unless of course the intent is simply to pretend to be something it isn't. More duh !!!

One of the distinquishing traits of a Porsche has always been their design independence. They aren't trying to emulate another car or another aesthetic trend, UNTIL the 996. You either appreciate the P car for what it is, or you don't. Porsche didn't care. There are lots of wannabes out there, all following around the presumed "trendsetter". They are all mush. M-B has always seemed to set trends not follow them. Porsche has seemed to just do what they thought best and most appropriately expressed the function of the machine. No hype. No trendiness. No b.s. Until the 996. Now they are backed into a corner having to undo that as the value of 993s continues to hold or even appreciate.

Pierre Martins

It's 99.99% finished. I'll post an update with more pics soon.

bcdavis

Cool...

fabric

What do you mean here? The 928 invented the "seamless" fascia - no bumpers, integrated into the body of the car. I think that's one of the reasons they still look so modern, that a car of the factory today isn't too much different.

Did you mean a different aspect of the bumpers?

SharkSkin

I love the 928 as much as anybody, but I would argue that the "seamless bumper integrated into the fascia" had been done at least as early as 1970, but poorly...

Nicole

I doubt that one will withstand much of an impact, given all the lights, chrome and whatever is in there. It's more like someone left away the bumper that would have been needed...

SharkSkin

It's not much different than the 1972, which met the 5mph bumper requirement... I didn't say it had been done well, I said it had been done.

FlyingDog

When I told a friend about the bumpers, he said Panteras were like that in the early 70's. I never checked on it.

CAShark

Resurrecting an old thread. I really want to know what happened to his body kit.