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Old 07-24-2004, 12:38 AM
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I was wondering, if anybody has a picture of where jack stands should or could support the 928 in the front or the rear.

I looked under my car today, and was wondering where one would put the jack stands, since the "official" lift points would be used up by the jack that lifts the car.

The location in the front has been described to me verbally, but I'm not sure what that particular place looks like - maybe I just could not see it without the car lifted. Do the wheels have to come off to put jack stands in place?

What od you guys use to prevent the other axle from rolling - for example, when you lift the car in the rear?
Old 07-24-2004, 01:12 AM
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Hi Nicole,

On the S4 models I use a jack on the rear pads and jack the car high enough to get the stands under the front pads. Once the front is in the air, I jack the rear of the car from the transaxle crossmember and put stands under both rear pads.

On the lift, the rear pads aren't used, but instead the rear lift arms support the car where the front part of the lower link for the weissach axle bolts to the car. The front pads are still used on the lift.
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Nicole,

Following up on what ATB has said. I used the very same method when I did the brakes on my car. I had it up on four jack stands and 2 extra floor jacks (not bearing much of the weight, mostly just placed for extra safety).

When jacking the car up, I use a hockey puck as a pad between the jack and the car. I also placed the tires/wheels under the car, both to get them out of the way and as an added measure of protection.

This is an image I took right before I started work on the right front brake assembly. You can see the black jack stand in front of the wheel.

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I placed the front jack stands under the usual lift point behind the front tire. It the rear I palced the jack stand at the base of the strut bracket.
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Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions! This will come in handy next time I get the cleaning frenzy... There is more detailing to do on the underside, and I want to be able to remove and replace the belly pan when needed.

Maybe at some point I'll even be able to attempt an oil change myself? Hmmm... I think the car has to be leveled for that - right? OK, forget that mess...

Anyway, I am a little surprised that none of you mentions any other points in the front where a jackstand can support the vehicle. I thought there was another point somewhere at/around the front suspension. Maybe I was wrong, and maybe that's a good thing. I definitely want to play things safe!

I like the suggestions of putting wheels and the jack under the car to add additional safety and support. I'm not sure, though, if I'd want anything between the jack stands and the car - what if that stuff slips??? Sounds scary to me...
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Nicole,

The suggested hockey puck is what I use as well. I use one on the cradle of my floor jack when lifting the car at the jacking points and then one on top of each of the jackstands when I lower the car down onto them.

The hockey puck protects the jacking points from damage from the jack or the metal top on the jackstands themselves. There are special pads available for jack cradles, probably for jackstands too, but the hockey pucks seem to work fine.

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I use some wood pieces as jack pads. about 4" square and with a piece of 3/4" dowel mounted on end in the middle. Using some wood the jack digs in and the pad digs in and the result is pretty solid.


The jack points have a hole in the middle and the dowel goes in there, then I jack up to the pad. Gets everything lined up right without laying on the floor. Also aids "the help" in doing it right.

My son once jacked the car by the sheetmetal behind the front seat. Luckily was using a lerger piece of wood as a pad or it might have gone through. I could pound it back down and it looks OK under the carpet. Now the pads with locating dowels are used exclusively.
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Nicole,

You can jack the car up via the rear or front crossmember. I do use a ~10" chunk of 2x4 when jacking on either of those points. Spreads the load.

To do front, you simply jack the side pad just enough to "unsettle" the suspension then remove the jack and you should have enough room to get to the front x-member. The rear is pretty much just a straight shot.

Using this method I find it is relatively quick to get a car up and on stands in all four corners.

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Nicole,

There's no good reason to jack the car from any other place than the five jacking points pointed out in the WSM.

The confusion is that most mechanics don't realize that the car can easily be jacked from the side rear jacking points in order to place jack stands under the front jacking points.
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I know about the side front and rear jacking points. What's the fifth jacking point pointed out in the WSM?
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According to the manuals, the fifth point is the rear cross member for the control arms.
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Originally Posted by MBMB
I know about the side front and rear jacking points. What's the fifth jacking point pointed out in the WSM?
Rear crossmember. I use a block of wood on jack cradle to spread the load a bit. using this method, you can raise three times to get all 4 jackstands under. Rear jacking point on each side to get front stands in and rear crossmember to put both rear stands in. At least that's how I do it.
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I start by following these steps:

1. Jack one side of the front at a time and put 3-4 18" long 2x10's stacked up under each front wheel.

2. Once the front end is high enough , remove the belly pans.

3. Put a 10" 2x4 between the jack and the front cross member and raise the front high enough to slide jack stands underneath each front jack point. Caution; do not raise it too high at this point it will become unstable when you start to raise the rear and besides if you go too high with the front you will not be able to get a jack under the rear cross member.

4. Raise the rear of the car by jacking under the rear cross member. I put the rear as high as I'm going to want the entire car at this point and slide jack stands under the rear jack points.

5. If you want to raise the front end do it when you have the rear end up in the air where you want it, repeat step 2.

Looks like this when its up on jack stands:
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Nicole, I would encourage you to get your hands dirty and do some of the mechanical maintenance yourself. It's not as bad as you think; what you need is patience, the right tools, (everyone will tell you service manuals), and a positive attitude. Get someone over to help you if you're unsure of something. The more I do myself, the more I am enjoying it actually.
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Chuck, what are you doing to the car in that pic? Just curious.


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