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Old 07-08-2022, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
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GTS Connecting Rods R1
Aren't those the ones that Porsche said to throw away??
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Originally Posted by jcorenman
Aren't those the ones that Porsche said to throw away??
Oh boy. Can meet worms.
Old 07-08-2022, 10:57 PM
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Yeah, that's a bit of a tough sell given the TSB about replacing 1R rods with 2R rods, but OTOH there are plenty of '93 and early '94 GTSs that have been running around with 1R rods without ill effect for 25+ years. But those owners don't need replacement rods either....

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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Yeah, that's a bit of a tough sell given the TSB about replacing 1R rods with 2R rods, but OTOH there are plenty of '93 and early '94 GTSs that have been running around with 1R rods without ill effect for 25+ years. But those owners don't need replacement rods either....
I guess that was my point.
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I don't have the TSB, but my recollection was it was if you already have the engine apart you should replace the the connecting rods or words to that effect. There was no recall to replace them.



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I infrequently make stuff like this as goof gifts and it's usually well received. I usually make dogs though from wrist pins and bolts.




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my recollection was it was if you already have the engine apart you should replace the the connecting rods or words to that effect. There was no recall to replace them.
Correct, here's the TSB for posterity. No recall, that would involve Porsche admitting a mistake.

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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Correct, here's the TSB for posterity. No recall, that would involve Porsche admitting a mistake.

This is as close as Porsche will ever get to telling people that something they made is junk.
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I will not dispute your assessment.

Do we know of any actual failures? Bent rods, etc.

I ask only because the first 93 GTS I owned was 'poorly' supercharged. The PO had shipped the GTS to be supercharged by Munck. The story I got was he over-pressurized the cylinders. Owner had to buy a replacement engine (A/T) from Mark.

Had DR restore it stock back in 2004 after picking it up on I40 and driving it up to Spruce Pine.

What I heard was that the cylinders were ovaled. There was no mention of bent rods. I know less about supercharging than I know about stroking.

But, if what I is told was correct wouldn't you expect the rods to bend before the cylinder would be misshapen?

Just asking.
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While I am no expert on TSB's or the various connecting rods I think that the important phrase in the TSB is that the rods should be replaced one the rod nuts have been loosened.

While there are many GTS's running around without issue and having these rods in place perhaps the problem with them only occurs once they have been re-used. (Rod nuts loosened).
Pure speculation, but perhaps Porsche was seeing failures in engines that had remedial works to try to deal with excessive oil consumption involving piston / rod removal.

Just my observations / opinions.

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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
I will not dispute your assessment.

Do we know of any actual failures? Bent rods, etc.
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Just this, but there may have been other factors...
This thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post11221451



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^^^^^^^^^^That was my '93 GTS motor that did have 1R rods. But if you look at the rod bolt threads you'll note they're intact (though rolled over a bit...). Which means that the rod nuts backed off, either from being undertorqued or re-used. I don't think 2R rods would have been any different in this situation.
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Not to jinx myself but I have 179,000 miles on my early '93 GTS. I replaced the rod bearings with new ones at about 120,000 miles and used new nuts. So far so good...



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