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Old 11-24-2021, 01:12 AM
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We have a few 928 engines in storage up here that came from fire damaged cars. A couple of them have either TBF, water pump failure (block damage) or TB failure.

Sure is a puzzling coincidence.

Originally Posted by Michael Benno
interesting the whole car was burned, was it involved in a house fire or something from the outside in?
Everything on a car is very flammable. If there isn't immediate response to a fire, once they get going it's difficult to stop until the fire runs out of things to burn.

The most spectacular car fire I was present for was a Ford Ranger doing a burnout when it blew a transmission line. Once that hot fluid hit the exhaust....poof...big fire. A fire marshal was there pretty quick with a big extinguisher that didn't slow down the fire one bit. I have the whole thing on film, it was at Sharks In Hell a number of years ago. Truck was a complete loss.
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I'm a Porsche noob but even I can see that there is not one bit of that engine compartment that has not been compromised. Heat-damaged, soot-damaged, rusted, holy smokes (no pun) Maybe the radiator is salvageable?
Bonus question for you experts: are there small parts that are NLA that might be harvested and refurbished? Clips, brackets, things that don't wear or hold pressure?
Otherwise, sadly, it looks like future lunch boxes... or mail boxes... sad.
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Originally Posted by RennHarry
I'm a Porsche noob but even I can see that there is not one bit of that engine compartment that has not been compromised. Heat-damaged, soot-damaged, rusted, holy smokes (no pun) Maybe the radiator is salvageable?
Bonus question for you experts: are there small parts that are NLA that might be harvested and refurbished? Clips, brackets, things that don't wear or hold pressure?
Otherwise, sadly, it looks like future lunch boxes... or mail boxes... sad.
Cheers
The short-block could be OK. One of the above mentioned fire engines purchased by a local friend, the intake manifold melted into the ports on the heads. After some careful clean-up work by Twin Turbo Todd, the engine was rebuilt and put to use.

I purchased this 89 back in 2005. The engine is awaiting rebuild and the transmission is living a new life in another 928. The block is damaged from a water pump impeller, but that's repairable. Brake calipers were fine, the MAF was rebuildable (and is currently in my 87). The LH / EZK survived along with a stack of paperwork in the glovebox that was water soaked. I dried out everything and have it in a file somewhere.








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Old 12-06-2021, 03:46 PM
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VIN: WP0AA2925PS820090
Production Number 0030
708 -- Black Metallic / Schwarz Metallic

Interestingly, the GTS this engine is destined to go into is 0032. :-)

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You bought the burned GTS? Please report on what you find, I hope you get a useable long-block out of it. How does the transmission look?

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I sure will. I bought the engine.








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As for the origins of the fire I think it started after a front impact.

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I wish you luck! Also the transmission?
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Interesting how none of the magnesium parts ignited yet the aluminum is gone.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Interesting how none of the magnesium parts ignited yet the aluminum is gone.
That's something I am grateful for. :-)
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Well I bought the engine and picked it up today.

Thanks to John Guzman for all his help - drove and helped with the unload.

Upper timing belt covers off. Timing belt is in great condition - engine turns over by hand - great compression.

No surprises in the oil.





End of day one. This was the easy part. Picking the melted plastic off the engine is next.

Thanks to Joe Cogbill for reaching out to me and selling the engine at a fair price,
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Is it normal for a timing belt to survive an engine fire--especially one that took out the car??
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Joe currently has the rear flared fenders from that GTS posted for sale.
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Is it normal for a timing belt to survive an engine fire--especially one that took out the car??
Timing belts are pretty tough...




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