bcdavis

Yes, low = 8 lbs.

I don't think any of the MURPH sharks have been blowing gaskets at 8lbs.

The only SC car in Wisconsin that had issues, was running 26psi!
So yeah, if you push it, the stock gaskets will blow...

Lagavulin

I just stopped in there to get some work done; they are going to modify my differential drain bolt by installing a temperature sensor in it. I think that's a lot better idea than drilling/tapping another hole into the cover.

Anyway, I asked about 32v heads for clarification. The labor is $185/4v-head, plus the customer buys/supplies the valve seals and valve guides. It looks like 928 International is selling them for $6 apiece, so that's another $200.

That still beats $3500 quotes I've heard to have the 928 32v heads done though.

Lagavulin

No problem, I was just trying to have some fun!

I do appreciate your initial level-headed response.

Normy

Lag- my post before wasn't any sort of "dis" or anything...I'm just curious to see how far down in the 11's you're going to get on street tires. Carrera GT's turn 11.4's and have about the same horsepower.

-As to that time slip, if it still exists then it is in my attic, and since it is typically 150 F/ 60 C up there...it can sit! Maybe I'll get out to the track one of these days and make a new one since I have the Ott X-Pipe now.

Jim/ Hacker- I like the idea of big-bore handguns. I had a 9 mm Makarov, which was an excellent excellent pistol despite its limited power. Though I work out quite a bit, I'm still concerned that the recoil of a big gun would kill my aim and basically make the gun useless. Oh well....

N!

Lagavulin

None taken as I would like to know what it'll do in the 1/4 mile too.

How do you like the way it sounds?

If you ever get new mufflers, you'll need the 'absorption' type such as MagnaFlow or DynoMax versus a 'baffled' type like a FlowMaster. An x-pipe with a baffled-type muffler produces a non-musical raspy sound.

TeufelHei

Normy...good choice on the handgun. The 9mm Makarov is about what the normal 38 special is and it almost always functions. Load up some Hornady 95gr XTP/HP and get some!

I carry a 10mm Auto, a Glock 20 when it's cold out and a Glock 29 when in shorts weather. Both take 15rd magazines.

I found the Desert Eagle to be a little ridiculous and ultimately self defeating. It also has reliability/parts issues due to the manufacturing process and the unique operation type. Gas operated pistols are usually touchy, which is why the immensely popular Browning type auto will never ever die.

If you want something that shoots about 6-7 rounds of really high power stuff, get a revolver (either Ruger or S&W). If you want to have a lot of ammo to miss with, use an automatic. I miss sometimes, and after having seen the new "Dawn of the Dead" I will never ever go out without at least 25 rounds on me. That movie was super creepy!

Incidently, the wife carries a 3" S&W model 60 loaded with 38+P/357 Mag of my own creation. I know I wouldn't want to be on the business end. It's all about how much you can use well, not how well used you are at the end of the day.

::steps of handgun soapbox::

Now, about the 16V kits...
I haven't read through all the threads yet, but I know there is an early model kit in the works out there. If all you have to do is pump air and add fuel pressure/larger injectors, then what's the deal? I know AFM regulated fuel injection has it's shortcomings, but there's got to be a way arround it right.

Inga is going to the wife after she gets overhauled, and I thought she'd really like a hundred or so more horses for Christmas. Any chance there's going to be a blower on the tree this year?

I have a team of highly motivated Marines ready to descend on this project. I may have to adjust the Wrench to Beer ratio a bit to the rich side given the nature of the people involved, but to get it done in one shot I'm willing to go for as much as they can handle. For my part, I wouldn't touch a drop, if it can be driven right away (which seems to be the case) the only thing faster than the car will be me getting in it.!

SteveM928

I'm thinking that it might be a good while before we see any actual drag strip results from much of the supercharger crowd. As far as I know, most or all drag strips aren't going to let you run a car that's in the 11s or better without a roll cage and quite possibly other additional safety equipment. They seem excessive to me in many cases, but I can see the point of the tracks having safety equipment requirements. You just know some guys would show up with a big block duct taped to a shopping cart otherwise. Since all of the supercharged guys seem to have street cars so far, I'm not going to hold my breath until they start installing cages and stuff like that. Some dynos have the ability to calculate 1/4 mile drag strip results based on the rear wheel power that they measure, along with the weight of the vehicle as it's weighed on the dyno, and possibly some other factors. A dyno calculated drag strip result or something like a G-Tech result might be all we see for quite some time.

Seth W

From what I understand (and read in the recent write up of a 996TT that had a bazillion HP) you do get the boot often if you run under 12 w/o equip., but you can't get the boot until AFTER you have made your one run. So its a one and done sort of thing.

bcdavis

We can also have a "G-Tech" showdown.

GoRideSno

Different tracks have different rules. I know that some will kick out a car w/o roll cages under 12sec. If this is the case then the procedure is to make a few easy runs to get your technique dialed in then go for it after your comfortable. They may kick you out after that run but that's all they can do.
Even though you may have to let off near the end you could still do full blown 3/16 mi runs all night and have good numbers to compare to that last full blown 1/4 at the end of the night. This way you have 1 full blown 1/4 mi time slip and then a bunch where you let off at the end to compare to it. You could see if you may have run a faster time than your final full blown 1/4 mi.
Or you could go to a 1/8th mi track. You have to be faster there to get kicked out than at a 1/4 mi track because the top speeds are slower. You could compare those to your full blown 1/4 mi too. My best 1/8 mi run was 3 tenths of a second faster than than the 1/8th in my best 1/4. Had that fastest 1/8th been the first part of a 1/4 then I probably would have hit high 11's.

Assuming a car will run a time below tracks limit is not a reason not to go. Untill it runs a time under the limit, it won't run a time under rthe limit.

Andy K

SteveM928

Don't think that some tracks haven't figured out people are doing that. I don't know how common it is now, but I've heard of instances where a car that ran too fast for the safety equipment that they had was kicked out as has been stated, but the time slip wasn't given to the car's driver for that one run either. You're not given the time slip, and just asked to leave and not come back until you have the required equipment. At least some tracks require drive shaft safety loops, fire suits, helmets, roll cages, aftermarket axles, aftermarket high performance harmonic balancers, and possibly more for cars running in the 10s. I'd say to check around and hope to find a track that might be a little more on the lenient side, and go in the evening or some other time they're least busy. I'm not holding my breath for those street car guys to install a bunch of that stuff just to be able to make a few runs, and I'm not holding my breath for them to look and drive around who knows how far to try to get by without it either.

Tony

Dont give you a time slip, no biggy!
Just have a buddy in the stands with a video camera recording the big ET/MPH display at the end of the track for you

SharkSkin

That would be a neat trick, putting one of those on a 928

Carl Fausett

I have raced and street driven my 928 with 9 psi and 11 psi for 3 years and have yet to blow a head gasket. Not one. I did brake a piston ring land 2 years ago when my intercooler was in the shop and I decide to go racing anyway on a 100 degree day without it. Other than that moment of stupidity (11 psi, hot ambient temp, racing, no intercooler) there has not been an engine failure at all.

Please rmemeber that pushing the envelope is part of the process - you push it till it breaks sometimes. I've done it too.

So Tim went a little hjigher, and a little higher, and a little higher.... and at an insane amount of boost the blew head gaskets. Good. Now we know where the limits are. That's all.

Normy

Tim- I liked the Makarov, but wanted something bigger so I sold it. I'd like a Sig, like a P226 or something similar. I hardly have time for shooting anymore...sucks.

Lag, that exhaust [Borla + Ott] is exactly what you describe: raspy. It made a huge difference in how the car runs....though that should be tempered by the fact that I had a plugged cat. I'm looking for a good high-flow converter, but I won't install it until I figure out why the car is running so rich. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the growl and the performance.

N!
'85 S2 5 Speed