Automatic transmission not engage
#286
We have not replaced the vacuum modulator. We have just checked it when we rebuild the transmission.
What is this new updated version ?
The car shifts hard when the transmission is cold. Soft then hot (10 minutes later).
I agree to take modulating pressure.
I will also check ATF level.
Last edited by Fabien92; 07-21-2021 at 05:46 PM.
#288
BTW. Today I have 145000 km. At 70000 km, Porsche France used DEXRON III when they changed the ATF.
UPDATE : I am looking for a pressure tester, with the hose and adapter. Which one to buy on the web ?
Last edited by Fabien92; 07-22-2021 at 07:48 AM.
#289
My tranny :
The rubber cap ref. 126 987 07 45 is very hard to insert. I can't do it ... I will try again today and I will order new ones (3 $) before to break mine.
I don't want to drive without the rubber cap and to lose the small "T". Reading the MB forums, it seems that the rubber cap is like a seal to avoid vacuum leak.
My rubber cap :
Last edited by Fabien92; 07-22-2021 at 08:26 PM.
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#291
This video describes the old and new versions:
Im actually not sure right now if the new style has a rubber cap. The old one has and if it cracks it'll influence the shifting.
Im actually not sure right now if the new style has a rubber cap. The old one has and if it cracks it'll influence the shifting.
Last edited by Schocki; 07-23-2021 at 03:00 AM.
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#295
In the cap is a T handle that turns the valve..??
#296
I have the T handle inside the green valve (the new one. See pictures in post #289 ;-) ). It was there when I removed the cap two days ago.
The cap turns on a half turn to adjust the pressure without to remove the cap.
The cap turns on a half turn to adjust the pressure without to remove the cap.
Last edited by Fabien92; 07-23-2021 at 03:35 AM.
#297
The cap is at the right place 😃 I did it in 3 minutes. I don’t know why I didn’t succeed on yesterday 😂
Two vidéos at cold. The RPM increases but no shift change. When hot no problem.
https://youtu.be/2_-xCrv7Hn0
https://youtu.be/NQuad1cVCU4
That’s my problem ...
Two vidéos at cold. The RPM increases but no shift change. When hot no problem.
https://youtu.be/2_-xCrv7Hn0
https://youtu.be/NQuad1cVCU4
That’s my problem ...
Last edited by Fabien92; 07-23-2021 at 04:43 AM.
#298
I thought the later transmissions had something to delay upshifts when the transmission fluid is cold to get the engine up to temperature faster and reduce emissions. It may be that yours is working as it should now that you’ve fixed stuff or whatever that component is in the transmission is the problem.
Edit:
Found this on a Mercedes forum:
The transmission upshift delay relay delays the 2 - 3 upshift point in order to heat the catalytic converter faster during cold engine operation.
Under certain operating conditions the CIS-E control unit energizes the upshift delay relay via ground. This causes the upshift delay solenoid valve at the
transmission to open reducing the governor pressure and raising the upshift point.
The 2 - 3 upshift delay point will be raised if:
a. After start up, with the coolant temperature between 60°F and 86°F for a maximum of 80 sec. or up to 31 mph.
b. With the coolant temperature between 32°F and 60°F for a short time, depending on the coolant temperature at the time or up to 31 mph.
Below 32°F and above 86°F 2 - 3 upshift delay does not operate.
Edit:
Found this on a Mercedes forum:
The transmission upshift delay relay delays the 2 - 3 upshift point in order to heat the catalytic converter faster during cold engine operation.
Under certain operating conditions the CIS-E control unit energizes the upshift delay relay via ground. This causes the upshift delay solenoid valve at the
transmission to open reducing the governor pressure and raising the upshift point.
The 2 - 3 upshift delay point will be raised if:
a. After start up, with the coolant temperature between 60°F and 86°F for a maximum of 80 sec. or up to 31 mph.
b. With the coolant temperature between 32°F and 60°F for a short time, depending on the coolant temperature at the time or up to 31 mph.
Below 32°F and above 86°F 2 - 3 upshift delay does not operate.
Last edited by gazfish; 07-23-2021 at 05:21 AM.
#299
I thought the later transmissions had something to delay upshifts when the transmission fluid is cold to get the engine up to temperature faster and reduce emissions. It may be that yours is working as it should now that you’ve fixed stuff or whatever that component is in the transmission is the problem.
Edit:
Found this on a Mercedes forum:
The transmission upshift delay relay delays the 2 - 3 upshift point in order to heat the catalytic converter faster during cold engine operation.
Under certain operating conditions the CIS-E control unit energizes the upshift delay relay via ground. This causes the upshift delay solenoid valve at the
transmission to open reducing the governor pressure and raising the upshift point.
The 2 - 3 upshift delay point will be raised if:
a. After start up, with the coolant temperature between 60°F and 86°F for a maximum of 80 sec. or up to 31 mph.
b. With the coolant temperature between 32°F and 60°F for a short time, depending on the coolant temperature at the time or up to 31 mph.
Below 32°F and above 86°F 2 - 3 upshift delay does not operate.
Edit:
Found this on a Mercedes forum:
The transmission upshift delay relay delays the 2 - 3 upshift point in order to heat the catalytic converter faster during cold engine operation.
Under certain operating conditions the CIS-E control unit energizes the upshift delay relay via ground. This causes the upshift delay solenoid valve at the
transmission to open reducing the governor pressure and raising the upshift point.
The 2 - 3 upshift delay point will be raised if:
a. After start up, with the coolant temperature between 60°F and 86°F for a maximum of 80 sec. or up to 31 mph.
b. With the coolant temperature between 32°F and 60°F for a short time, depending on the coolant temperature at the time or up to 31 mph.
Below 32°F and above 86°F 2 - 3 upshift delay does not operate.