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Old 05-16-2020, 02:09 PM
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Love the side profile . But the back can be improved upon. Looks like a cross breed between a Panamera + Camaro . Hope the front carries on the evolution of the signature lights and nose that makes the 928 unique.
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Too bad MB beat them to it....

i like it though.
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many thumbs down!
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Yawn. Wake me when they build one.
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I like it in general, except the slightly blurred, curvaceous body lines. It's a fine line between similar lines on the original 928, and these slightly jelly-bean like forms here presented. It's really quite good, but just missing some intensity.
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Not bad.
Looks almost like the rear windows are not supposed to have glass in them - something like the Maserati Merak.
Not crazy about the rear spoiler - it's almost like a wannabe whale tail.
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Don't like it. If Porsche ever revives the 928, it better have at least an homage to the pop up headlights and be a hatch back. But biggest of all for me, and this is non-negotiable, it MUST have a bespoke V8 that is not in any way a derivative of their Cayenne/Panamera mills.
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Originally Posted by Tony
Too bad MB beat them to it....

i like it though.
Dude! It's just a rip-off of the photochop you (IIRC) did 15 years ago!




And you got the proportions right (or at least better) for a mid-front rear transaxle 2+2 architecture.


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Too contemporary, you need a design that people will only start to really appreciate in 2060 !
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The concept in the first post looks like a strange mix between a 911 and a 928 to me...
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I actually think that's quite good looking. Considering Porsche will have to use a mix of design language they already have to tie a new car into the lineup the way they all kind of resemble each other, I think this iteration is about as much 928 looking as you'll ever see considering the previous statement. I agree the back could be improved upon but the backs of all the new Porsches could. Would need to have the pop up exposed front lights though and doubt they'd do that with current led technology and aerodynamic requirements for fuel consumption.

I would also bet it uses the Panamera chassis and its v8, and they wouldn't do a completely new engine design for a new model like this when they sell far more SUVs than sports cars now. From a purpose standpoint, the 992 is essentially what the 928 used to be, a larger 2 door GT car and the Cayman is the smaller more track focused 2 door car.
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Originally Posted by worf928
Dude! It's just a rip-off of the photochop you (IIRC) did 15 years ago!




And you got the proportions right (or at least better) for a mid-front rear transaxle 2+2 architecture.


wow, my trees have really grown....
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Originally Posted by Red Flash
The concept in the first post looks like a strange mix between a 911 and a 928 to me...
I'm pretty sure it's a photoshopped / stretched 992

Originally Posted by Petza914
Would need to have the pop up exposed front lights though and doubt they'd do that with current led technology and aerodynamic requirements for fuel consumption.
It really is a shame pop-up headlights are probably gone for good.

Originally Posted by GT6ixer
it MUST have a bespoke V8 that is not in any way a derivative of their Cayenne/Panamera mills.
Originally Posted by Petza914
I would also bet it uses the Panamera chassis and its v8, and they wouldn't do a completely new engine design for a new model like this when they sell far more SUVs than sports cars now.
The Bentley Continental GT also uses the Panamera chassis. The Continental does have it's own W12 engine, but it's based on the VW VR6 overall design just like the Veyron engine. I really cannot fathom how VAG could justify a bespoke V8 (or any engine) going forward. They have so much engineering already tied up in engine design, would be silly not to tap into something already on the shelf. Unless they have some crazy idea and need a car to test it in, which would mean eventually the engine would be shared in other platforms.

Being a Lamborghini fanboi I was quite disappointed when the Urus was released with an Audi V8. Nothing wrong with that engine but a Lamborghini should at least have a Lambo engine (since the rest of the vehicle is a re-skinned Audi). They claim the Lambo V10 or V12 wouldn't fit, but then the Bentley SUV (same chassis) gets the W12. They could have at least made that engine an option. I also find it hard to believe with all of their know-how they couldn't stuff the Lambo engine in there. I have a feeling it has more to do with emissions and driveability.
IMO the Urus is the most overblown and overpriced vehicle on the market today. For what they can sell those for, it should be more Lamborghini. All in the sticker can exceed $250,000 for a vehicle that shares most major components with a $55,000 Audi. The profit margin on the Urus has to be at the top of the VAG list.

Originally Posted by GT6ixer
From a purpose standpoint, the 992 is essentially what the 928 used to be, a larger 2 door GT car and the Cayman is the smaller more track focused 2 door car.
Yup, when the Boxster came out it took the spot as the pure sportscar in the family and the 996 morphed the 911 line into a GT. It's a fun way to ruffle feathers in the 911 crowd by stating the base 996 isn't a sportscar. That's why the GT3 exists, to fill that void for the 911 fan who wants a more pure sportscar. As more and more people ordered GT3's and wanted added luxuries, Porsche had to cook up the GT3RS. Same circle of life for the Boxster family which lead to the GT4.

Anyway, in my humble opinion, the only way a new 928 could ever exist and check off all the boxes to actually represent a 928, not only in style but also history of design. Porsche would have to be ready to compete with the Ferrari 812 Superfast or the new Ferrari Roma. The Roma is probably more realistic, but with an MSRP more than double the 992, such a target price could give way to funds necessary to design a new car from scratch. Even then, no bookkeeper on the planet could be talked into scrapping everything on the vast VAG shelf. 99.9% of the potential buyers wouldn't care anyway.


Back to what Tony said, about the Mercedes AMG GT being the current spiritual successor to the 928. This topic comes up a lot, what would a 928 fan buy in 2020 to scratch that itch of a front engine, top of the line GT that Porsche doesn't make? The one part of this topic that doesn't get discussed much is the 2+2 configuration. The tiny backseats is part of the charm of the 928, and is every bit a part of the design as the headlights and clean sheet design. How many (if any) luxury GT's made today are a 2+2?

I learned something just now, Aston Martin actually offers a 2+2 conversion package, I don't even want to know what this costs:
https://www2.astonmartin.com/en/acce...conversion-2-2

This makes me think if Porsche were serious about making a new vision of the 928, the target market would be the Ferrari GTC4Lusso. A true luxury GT that can actually seat 4 adults.


But yea, a "new" 928 needs to be groundbreaking like the GTC4Lusso was (actually the FF as it started life).

In a weird roundabout way, the most 928 Porsche on the market today is the Taycan. Think about it, started as a 100% clean sheet design, it's a high speed grand touring machine with a bespoke power-train and very unique headlights. Only issue is the number of doors.

It really makes me think a modern 928 will be a two door Taycan.
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