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Old 01-09-2020, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GT6ixer
For reference...






I love that color combo! Where is that one found?


Old 01-09-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark2626
Its in Portugal.
Is there a link to it?

Edit, it's the same car. Looks great though. How does one do a PPI in Portugal. Germany and England I have covered!

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Originally Posted by Bowball
Is there a link to it?
The link is in an above post along with photos of the car, the bright green with pasha car. Look for the link in blue text. Its in Portuguese, but it’s just generic info, a standard ad. Says it’s been very well cared for, conserved. Pretty car!

arizonamuscle.com is the dealer selling the gold car, a different car that was mentioned. Interesting, they have a white car, you should check that one out here:

http://arizonamuscle.com/project/198...he-928-40k-mi/

Seems there are plenty of unicorns still around to be had.
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Originally Posted by Shark2626
The link is in an above post along with photos of the car, the bright green with pasha car. Look for the link in blue text. Its in Portuguese, but it’s just generic info, a standard ad. Says it’s been very well cared for, conserved. Pretty car!

arizonamuscle.com is the dealer selling the gold car, a different car that was mentioned. Interesting, they have a white car, you should check that one out here:

http://arizonamuscle.com/project/198...he-928-40k-mi/

Seems there are plenty of unicorns still around to be had.
Do you think that Pasha interior is original or replaced? Is the replacement material good enough to be relied on?

I found a 30,000 mile unicorn too in europe but my fear is that it may be too nice to modify and I'll keep it stock and hence need to buy two. But I'm ok with that.

I have a profound worry about the electrical systems in these cars! My newest on is a 1973RS so pre electrical worries!
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The biggest threat to the electrical system in early cars is previous owners and hack mechanics. If you work on the '78s and '79s, and then spend some time with '87-95 cars, you appreciate the original design intent, and everything from 1980 on was additional complexity and crowding. The early cars are essentially entirely analog point-to-point wiring, the only black boxes in the car are the ignition module (bulletproof), the cruise control brain (easily refurbed for ~$100), the central warning unit (rarely fail), and the radio. They have a reputation for being complex. They're not.
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Originally Posted by GT6ixer
Enzo!
The ultra rare JINX Enzo
Old 01-09-2020, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowball
Do you think that Pasha interior is original or replaced? Is the replacement material good enough to be relied on?

I found a 30,000 mile unicorn too in europe but my fear is that it may be too nice to modify and I'll keep it stock and hence need to buy two. But I'm ok with that.

I have a profound worry about the electrical systems in these cars! My newest on is a 1973RS so pre electrical worries!
Purchased a wrecked 79 (pascha) donor car for a project 8 years ago. This OB had only 12,178 original miles and was stored indoors all its life. The pascha looked great but unfortunately it was the black/brown combo and is NLA. The front seat cushions where the fabric meets the vinyl was coming apart. Tried to fix but they would not hold. Had them reupholstered in the closet color combo available (black/tan) http://www.classic9leathershop.com/p...28s4-928s-928/ They came out great and should last another 40 years. Consider widening your OB search skipping on the pascha (unless you find a pristine example or one that's been reupholstered) If not, most 40+ year old interiors are in need of a redo and adding pascha to the mix shouldn't cost that much more.YMMV. T


original black/brown seats^^

reupholstered black/tan seats^^

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Old 01-09-2020, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GT6ixer
I agree with everything everybody else just said above. And if you're looking for that early car to build up then look no further than the one that Jim is offering for sale here. It checks almost all of your boxes for a build.

​​​​​https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post16341831

Jim is one of the most knowledgeable early car 928 guys around. And then since you're in the New England area definitely get in contact with Dave Chamberland
​AKA Wof928 here on RL.
I looked at the ad. Great color. To bring it back cosmetically it would need to be repainted, and a new interior. How hard to find those NOS replacement parts (any cracked plastic or the original seats, and to be reupholstered with the stripes or pascha?)
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Originally Posted by Bowball
Do you think that Pasha interior is original or replaced?
Almost positive that is replacement pasha. Here is a shot of Blumaxx (Linderpat's excellent '78) which is original interior and one of the best out there. As you can see the Portugal car white is unfaded (impossible after 40 years) and the squares on the door card are not exactly correct compared to Blumaxx.








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Originally Posted by Bowball
Hi

im new to 928’s but haven’t shaken the itch since I first borrowed my friends back around 1992.
im heavy into 356 and early 911’s though. Used to vintage race them too

here’s what I’d like to do and am asking for advice.

im attracted to the very early narrow no flares or spoilers 928’s especially with the pascha interior and phone dial rims. Probably a manual but autos are a great match for this car too.

my intended use is long hours on back roads in New England and some freeway hours. I value reliability.

id Like to find an incredible original condition one. Low
miles, pascha necessary.

Or have one built for me with upgraded engines and mechanicals.

will I find the stock early good enough and high quality enough? Is the engine strong enough? Brakes? Easy to update if needed without affecting value?

is the electrical reliable enough to depend on?

or should I find a great starting car and have it build the way I want? Is the replacement pascha good enough?

importantly is there an A plus shop out there? For example Rod Emory has built me two cars. I only want the best and most reliable. I’ve been stranded too often

reliabilty is key.

thanks everyone.
I've got a 1978 Minerva car, no sunroof, black/white pasha interior, which I bought because.....I love this type of 928, they are getting pretty darn rare, and I could not "walk away" from it. It needs a complete restoration (amazingly enough, it still has the original paint on it, but it is really "beat up"). It is a California car without any rust/major damage (extremely important.) It's sitting here waiting for the proper restoration/restorod client (Although Rob Edwards will be really disappointed, if he can't restore it and keep it.)

I have two of this "style" car being restored/rebuilt currently....it's quite a process to make them correct, perfect, and reliable. I think everyone that is seriously involved in the "928 world" will tell you we excel at what we do.

I'm not prepared to go into the details of how to build the "perfect", early 928 "hotrod", here, so you will need to contact me for details, time frame, costs involved.





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Old 01-09-2020, 08:13 PM
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John Veninger's stroker race car, backdated would be a very interesting 928..
Old 01-09-2020, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
I've got a 1978 Minerva car, no sunroof, black/white pasha interior, which I bought because.....I love this type of 928, they are getting pretty darn rare, and I could not "walk away" from it. It needs a complete restoration (amazingly enough, it still has the original paint on it, but it is really "beat up"). It is a California car without any rust/major damage (extremely important.) It's sitting here waiting for the proper restoration/restorod client (Although Rob Edwards will be really disappointed, if he can't restore it and keep it.)

I have two of this "style" car being restored/rebuilt currently....it's quite a process to make them correct, perfect, and reliable. I think everyone that is seriously involved in the "928 world" will tell you we excel at what we do.

I'm not prepared to go into the details of how to build the "perfect", early 928 "hotrod", here, so you will need to contact me for details, time frame, costs involved.





I

I tried calling you earlier today and emailed you this morning. You have my number to call back.

thanks,
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I’d be shocked if the Pascha in the green car isn’t newer. The original black/white material always seems more cream/oyster than pure white.

Here’s a pic of mine that was redone by Classic9. It gets a ton of attention but you can tell it’s a fair amount brighter/whiter than cars with original fabric.




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Yes, the fresh black/white Pascha is frickin' WHITE.


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The four pascha color combo's top pic below. Black/brown is NLA but in this digital age can probably be reproduced...for a price $$$. Original black/brown pascha (lower pic) from the 79 donor mentioned^^and without windscreen in place for a good look. T




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