soontobered84

I was thinking that although a registry exists for the 928. What about all the cars that have been or are now in the process of being parted out? Are those cars being accounted for in any way? It seems that the registry should include those cars as deceased, dismantled, or otherwise decayed. There were only 57,000 some odd cars originally, but how many are still viable vehicles? With some work, missing VIN#'s could be tracked down so that your car wouldn't be orphans. They could be reunited with their sisters and brothers.

(I've got to stop spending so much time with the 928. It's starting to get to me)

Weissach

A think that the last thing anybody wants to see is pages and pages of deceased, dismantled, or otherwise decayed 928 on the net. They were parted for one reason or another..... RIP

Michael Robinson

I for one would like to (and I don't want to seem morbid) see what has happened to 928's that have been parted out. I believe that photographs of totaled 928's would give us a great understanding of how well these cars are able to withstand the worst of the worst accidents. I have only seen a few wrecked 928's and they all seem like they had been rear ended or have rear ended other cars. And they all seem like the drivers had walked away. Does anyone have a photograph of a totaled 928 they would like to share with those who have never seen on worse then a bent fender or a crumpled nose/rear?

worf928

What follows is a quote from a very old (as in a decade) Autoweek. (And I am not making this up as this particular text was dredged from an magazine archive of a fellow 928 owner fours years ago and matches my memory of the article.) I read this at least 10 years ago and have not worried about the safety of 928s. Ever.


I would like to know if Mark and Jim have this one on a shelf.

tuk_928

David,
Thanks for sharing that bit of anecdotal evidence on the crash worthiness of the s4. Hopefully the kid found another way to off himself...probably in prison now, if not deceased.

Michael, Weissach, and Soontobered84,
Re: the 928 KIA list...does anyone know if the DMVs (in the 50 states) maintain any public-access of VIN# records for vehicles whose VIN#s have been listed as salvage, "total loss", etc. If so, perhaps a little handywork with a search engine could yield some interesting results to supplement Chuck Z's wonderful 928 Registry.

Any law enforcement officers or state govt employees on the list? Perhaps they could tell us. Similarly, anyone working in the Auto Insurance biz may have access to this information. Meanwhile, I'll ask my neighbor who is a field agent for Progressive.

Cheers,
Tim

tuk_928

David,
Thanks for sharing that bit of anecdotal evidence on the crash worthiness of the s4. Hopefully the kid found another way to off himself...probably in prison now, if not deceased.

Michael, Weissach, and Soontobered84,
Re: the 928 KIA list...does anyone know if the DMVs (in the 50 states) maintain any public-access of VIN# records for vehicles whose VIN#s have been listed as salvage, "total loss", etc. If so, perhaps a little handywork with a search engine could yield some interesting results to supplement Chuck Z's wonderful 928 Registry.

Any law enforcement officers or state govt employees on the list? Perhaps they could tell us. Similarly, anyone working in the Auto Insurance biz may have access to this information. Meanwhile, I'll ask my neighbor who is a field agent for Progressive.

Cheers,
Tim

moon928

I still have photos of my car somewhere. When I bring myself to open that nasty chapter again I will scan them and post them. I know my car was parted out by a dismanteler here in Ma.

I saw the car well after the accident, and lets just say it was heart breaking to see it as just a frame, but to think that there are some of my cars parts out there on someones ride is pretty cool.

Who knows maybe someone here has my some of its parts. When I totaled it, my car had 68000 miles on it. The intereior was perfect.

What is amazing about the 928 is that I swayed the entire front end and if you looked at the car from the drivers side or passengers side door back you could never tell it was in an accident.

SharkSkin

Someone with a lot of time on their hands could run through the VINs sequentially on carfax.... or a script could be made to crunch through all of the VINs, tabulating the results. If someone could point me to a simple web page that does this and returns the result in a browser window, I might be able to do something with it. I need a resource with free, unlimited VIN checks.

D

ViribusUnits

Well, I can tell you the 928 is the preverbial Brick House in terms of accidents.

The car that got me started on the 928 was a 79 Euro, T-boned by a 1 ton pick up that ran a red light at 45. The driver walked away without a scratch. The car was still in driveable condition, but the passangers side door was heavly beat up. I'll see if I can't get a picture. The car did not have the federaly mandated steel beams in the doors that the later, or US cars have. Any car that could take that kind of a hit, not have all the safty features, and still keep an alignment is OK in my book. That car later did 120 mph in that dammaged condition.

As an aside, I saw a Honda of some sort that took a similer hit. The car was a banana! It was a Chevy van that did the hitting rather than a 1 ton pick up, but that'll do for a battering ram!

I recently rear ended a Honda civic. The civic was totaled, I suffered screwed up paint, bumber cover, and a broken driveing light and turn signle. Go figure.

I'll see what I can do for photos.

morganabowen

Jim bailey - 928 International

In one of our earlier catalogues we did have some crashed car photos .......we were asked by MANY not to include such in future issues . Perhaps why Playboy only has photos of living models ................ The 928 is a very safe car extremely strong yet the frontend deforms to absorb impact the engine goes down under the body . I have never seen a collapsed roof ........very strong car .

Bryan

On the roof strength topic, there's supposedly some movie where a monster truck crushes a 928 and after repeatedly shooting the scene, the truck could not crush the 928's roof. They had to cut it in a bunch of places so it would crush.

Bryan

soontobered84

My point is this: we only started out with 57,000. How many are left? What has happened to the others? I think that the registry should include all the ones that anyone knows about.

Just my thoughts on the matter

Rich9928p

Just today I was at my shop getting an A/T service. A guy drives up and starts asking questions. He is looking at a 1980 928 that is for sale at a dismantler. The body looks good but the engine isn't so good. The 928 price is $2000 and a replacement engine is quoted at $1000. The guy is asking for a quote for the engine swap. There are several other local 928 owners that have purchased either salvage or damaged 928s and are bringing them back to life either for the road or track.

Many 928 owners are in "over their heads" because they buy a very inexpensive older model but they need a lot of fix'n up and that don't come cheap. So there seems to be a movement of 928s moving in and out of the bone yard.

soontobered84

Although I am in the process of reanimating the '84, I have an US '83 engine in my garage that is just looking for a engineless car to be put into. IMHO there are probably better things to do with my money, but not many things more satisfying than reanimating.