BC

CA to be more specific. I get it - other states either have no smog or lesser hoops. This will change.

I went to 5 places as I drove the 79 to warm it up and get the cat hot. I know it will pass - but it has no interior, etc. Its just so it can be registered and driven on the street (and parked).

Each place had a slightly different view - but the idea is that they don't want to do cars that required the Dyno and evap check (which the 928 can't anyway). They want to make thier 50 bucks by plugging in an OBD2 and seeing if there are codes. Done (ripoff).

So now, what I find CA is doing is slowly tightening the noose on the cars that they deem need more test scrutiny. I found a place that may do it, but I left the car there (its fine - its a 500 dollar car that I don't drive). We will see if they can figure out the start sequence and how to get the CF hood open.

I have to seriously look into the Montana registration process. At least for the extra cars that are suspect for CA (Though to be clear, the 79 is bone stock - just almost 40 years old).

If this doesn't work I may have to go another route...

Speedtoys

I ahvent seen this noose 'tightening', I see the maximums drawing down as the system is reading more GOOD cars than bad ones, and adjust for the fleet accordingly.

A maximim dirty car, has nearly dead cats..and should be fixed.

A good car, will move anywhere from 2 to 20 HC's, and be at about 20% of the maximum. Hardly a small hoop to dive thru. I have absolute proof that a perfect car with no cat, cannot pass smog. GB and I spent two days looking for "the problem", replaced absolutely everything, before reaching for a new cat (928-113-219-00)..and that was it.

HC's are simply 20-30 over allowable maximums with a dead cat.

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My cat was likely killed since my last smog..because of 1 or 2 bad injectors...I was painfully rich before those were replaced with new. Nothing in the entire system made a difference after that. Entire air and fuel system was R&Rd and validated at Greg's

Ya..it cost money, but over 30yrs, it's nothing.

A smog check told me I had an issue, glad its fixed.

I had no issue moving a rolling shell only thru an inspection..."Got a project car for my kid" is a good opener for those situations.

V2Rocket

must be in an unusual area, BC...i'm not in SD anymore but there have to be 30 places with rollers and sniffers within 10 miles of me up here.

i STAR-smogged my 944 here in January.

dr bob

BC--

Oregon has a no-tests reg, but the car has to be here for a VIN check initially. K has a client in SoCal who also owns a home near here. They were shopping for a new Audi here to save on sales tax and reg costs, then take it home to L.A. to drive there on the cheap. I suggested that the primary driver get her Oregon DL so she could play the part if she was pulled over. Didn't happen. Cali has a pretty strict penalty fee for those trying to avoid the costs and aggravations of keeping a car there.

We later found out that the client had used our address for the new car reg so we could forward the plates to them when they arrived from ORDMV. It will be an interesting exercise to see how long she can commute from Thousand Oaks into Burbank a few days a week without getting busted with the 'foreign' plates.

granprixweiss928

the problem is the STAR rating. stations will loose their star rating if they fail too many cars. not the fault of the station....

https://www.bar.ca.gov/Consumer/STAR_Program/index.html

because older cars that are pre ODB2 require the sniff test and the dyno in most areas. these more commonly fail and the stations are more complex and expensive to run. So most elect now to do only the plug-in-the-obd port and collect $50 way to do it.

Speedtoys

It'll work great, until someone behind her in traffic turns em in.

I cant find it, but years ago I heard of a program for this.

I think im the only CA car in my parking ramp at home..heh.

nosnow

I have the same issue in the east bay. When I had to get my Boxster Star checked I had to call the dealer for a shop. Seems I live in an area the BAR cracks down on bad smog shops so no other shops want to risk it. There just isn't enough profit in a smog check to deal with specialty cars.

my 89 S4 one shop told me to leave because there was no check engine light, nothing would change his mind.

Speedtoys

Which is odd, because the CE light is the -last- step in the test, for a reason. Its specifically not a pre-fail item.

We have a few 928 safe paces here in san jose you can visit, and I know one in santa cruz as well.

dr bob

I had a STAR place in OC where the owner was a car guy and claimed a 928 in his past. I still took the car to him for testing even after I moved north to L.A. county. Took the other cars to him as well. Need to support the people who support us.

hacker-pschorr

Year after year we hear about doomsday prophecies, usually from California residents, about the day when all 50 states will be subjected to the same regulations as California.

When in fact the complete opposite is true. Year after year more states realize what a waste of time and money it is policing older vehicles that statistically spend so little time on the road they are irrelevant when talking about overall emissions.

Wisconsin was one of the first, they drew a line in the sand and said only ODBII cars will be subjected to emission testing. The state was losing money testing the older vehicles and enough was enough.

The number of households with a car 23+ years or older as their only means of transportation is practically irrelevant it's so small, and shrinks year by year. The smart politicians recognize this and know any house hold with a car 23+ year or older and a newer car in the garage, the older vehicle is not a primary means to get around. Such vehicles should be regulated the same as other hobby vehicles, like boats, ATV's and airplanes (many which still run leaded gas......and some are worried about our cars??)

I'm fully aware with a simple flip in administrations this could all change. If we allow a totalitarian tyrant into the White House who has zero respect for the sovereignty of the 50 states which make up this union, we may all have to scramble to find functioning air pumps and OEM CATS to install.

Until then, be sure to vote in favor of our hobby and politicians who are not ignorant to the fact that our hobby isn't doing squat to the world environment. These such regulations are a tax on the working class who always seem to have the quietest voice, even though we often pay the highest price.

Speedtoys

So..that Howard Dean rant gonna help BC?

The Forgotten On

I always end up having to get my 928s STAR tested every time I get them smogged

All the STAR shops I have dealt with have a dyno and are willing to do the car. Here in Thousand Oaks I have a smog shop I use that mainly deals with exotics like Fcars, AMGs, etc. and they aren't phased by the 928s at all.

They even make sure the car has the best chance of passing by keeping it running etc.

I think the trick is to find a good shop that others have used and that have dealt with 928s in the past.

It's much less hassle than having someone smog the car that sees it as a liability.

I honestly just hope these rules can be relaxed so there is only an emissions test and no longer a visual inspection at least.

It shouldn't matter what is powering the car so long as it is clean out of the exhaust.

Tom in Austin

Here in Texas, at 25 years you're an 'antique' vehicle and there are no more inspections. Personally, I advocate keeping a beloved collectible well tuned and running the way it should, and after that, as Hacker says, it's driven too few miles to make any difference to air quality.

I understand the argument California is making that everyone should play by the same rules, and when I'm there I'm amazed how nice it is to drive behind a 1960s car and not choke on noxious fumes belching from the tailpipe. But again, as a practical issue, the millions of late model cars on the road are what drives air quality and where the rules should be aimed.

SeanR

I have a place that refused to do a rolling emission test as the owner was a cool car guy and when I approached him about testing these he called the state to find out there was no rule in place that said we had to do it on the rolling road. This helped a great many of our cars pass since with an auto, you were lugging the engine to maintain the RPM required to test.

In my county they look to see if your lights are working, no check engine light is going off and it costs us $7.00 now. Much less vigorous than it was in the past. Many counties no longer require any testing. Hackers got it right, there was a time when the way Ca went, the rest were to follow, no longer the case.

Koenig-Specials 928

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Recently happened here in Ontario, Canada with a new Government.

The Canadian Press : Published Friday, September 28, 2018 11:22AM EDT
The Ontario government is scrapping the Drive Clean vehicle emissions testing program effective April 1, 2019 and replacing it with a new system that will focus only on heavy-duty vehicles such as transport trucks. The Progressive Conservative government says the Drive Clean program, which tests emissions every two years on cars and light-duty trucks over seven years old, is outdated and no longer effective.

In a news conference Friday, Premier Doug Ford said the program worked well when it was introduced in 1999 and but grew less useful as the automotive industry adopted more stringent emissions standards, "Drive Clean was created almost 20 years ago but 20 years later, the family car now creates much less pollution. So Drive Clean has outlived its usefulness," he said. "Only five per cent of vehicles failed the test last year, compared with 16 per cent in 1999, and the trend is expected to continue" the government said.

Other opinions have also been that the older cars were only used occasionally by hobbyists and were in much better condition than cars driven for daily commute.