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Old 01-24-2019 | 09:47 PM
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Actually found a place to smog the car, as an update. A smog test place next to a car wash in Poway, CA.

He was happy to take a look, leery when I got there, and then the computer said something to the effect that this car shall not be issued a certificate. He had no idea what it meant. I think its user error on the shorter vin, but he verified it visually.

I called the referee today to see what they say.

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Old 01-24-2019 | 10:58 PM
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"I see our host practices censorship"

Not at all.

They're not the government.

You're welcome to say anything you want on your own web page however.
Old 01-24-2019 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
"I see our host practices censorship"

Not at all.
Our host does practice censorship. I think what you meant here was that, just because our host isn't the government, it's not illegal? They can censor whatever they like, they're private people, just as anyone else with a website of their own can practice censorship? No law against it.
Old 01-25-2019 | 01:10 AM
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In California, not all counties require a smog test . Once initially registered and smog tested in counties such as lake county,ca, no fiurther testing required. You do have to have a residence address in that county though .
Old 01-25-2019 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Otto Mechanic
just because our host isn't the government, it's not illegal?
It's still not censorship. You are not being suppressed..IB just wont publish some of what you may want to say.

Its IB's private system. You can have your own wall on the internet where you can publish anything you want.

And not illegal also..you have no 1st rights in someone else's space.
Old 01-25-2019 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
It's still not censorship. You are not being suppressed..IB just wont publish some of what you may want to say.

Its IB's private system. You can have your own wall on the internet where you can publish anything you want.

And not illegal also..you have no 1st rights in someone else's space.
Perhaps a bit pedantic, but it's still 'censorship'.

Wiki:
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient" as determined by a government or private institution, for example, corporate censorship.
Through their representatives on here (Hacker is one), they choose to suppress (remove) certain things.

I personally don't care about profanity, but some do.
I do like that PAs & threats are kept out of the discussions (censored).

Old 01-25-2019 | 10:03 PM
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Spoke to Referee today.

Looked up VIN and plate. Unable to find any smog history. Doesn't understand in his experience how the car has a plate if it never had a smog.

Stumped, in his words.

He suggested speaking to the DMV.
Old 01-28-2019 | 07:54 AM
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I see the same thing around Orange, smog test places don't bother to fix a roller system or pay for the updates, or lose STAR status. I had a great guy within walking distance down the street, worked on 928's back in the day, and knew what things NOT to do that can make an older car fail. When I stopped in last year he was on a 6 month suspension of the STAR rating. I tried the "go to" tester in town and OBDII only, his roller wasn't working. I did find a shop, $80 and it passed, but with a 928 and bank fired injectors it only takes one slightly hinky injector, a few percent lean or rich vs the rest and Nox or HC will fail.

Parking on the street, wow, that sounds sweet, NONE anywhere around where I live. Somebody with some juice with the city bought the house on the hill above us and a week later "NO PARKING" signs went up the full length of the street leading to their driveway, and it was the only place around to park.
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Glad the car is back on the road(somewhat). Take it to a referee station and they will help with long term smog concerns.

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10440 Black Mountain Road San DiegoCA92126United States If the engine is stock, and the smog stuff is on it, the referee WILL do the best they can to either approve it, designate it as a gross polluter(you still get to register), or will tell you what you need to do for registration. I can't do anymore unless I fly out, take the keys, drive to the referee, talk to the people there, show them my smog rejection, ask for a fair inspection and move on with life.
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Originally Posted by BC
Spoke to Referee today.

Looked up VIN and plate. Unable to find any smog history. Doesn't understand in his experience how the car has a plate if it never had a smog.

Stumped, in his words.

He suggested speaking to the DMV.
BC:

What an odd hole your car fell into with the DMV, keep us up to date.
Old 01-28-2019 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
Glad the car is back on the road(somewhat). Take it to a referee station and they will help with long term smog concerns.

Miramar College

10440 Black Mountain Road San DiegoCA92126United States If the engine is stock, and the smog stuff is on it, the referee WILL do the best they can to either approve it, designate it as a gross polluter(you still get to register), or will tell you what you need to do for registration. I can't do anymore unless I fly out, take the keys, drive to the referee, talk to the people there, show them my smog rejection, ask for a fair inspection and move on with life.
Originally Posted by Speedtoys
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What an odd hole your car fell into with the DMV, keep us up to date.

Doc - SPOKE TO THE REF. See above. He has NO IDEA. Suggested I call the DMV.

Called the DMV on the way to work today. 54 minutes on hold. Each time they updated the hold time, it increased. At 54 minutes, it disconnected me. I will try again.

Montana LLC for the problem cars seems like a great, easy path from here.
Old 01-28-2019 | 06:55 PM
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Is the no smog history an issue due to non 50 state, or what? Have you checked, https://bar.ca.gov/pubwebquery/Vehicle/PubTstQry.aspx to see if the vin exists with bad character?

I am finally getting close to removing the last bits off my 84 Euro parts car, which has a valid Calif BAR sticker, let me know if you would like it vs going to the metal guys. Not much left on the chassis, but special bonus it has TWO Calif registrations, one salvage title and one with a misspelling (8 vs B something like that).
Old 01-29-2019 | 01:23 PM
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I have an 84 here in orange county California that I was planning to bring to get smog this week, has anyone found a glass half full shop that they can recommend? The car should pass but never hurts to bring it to a shop that isn’t pre-disposed against all cars.
Old 01-29-2019 | 01:34 PM
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I have always had good luck with the guy at Newport Smog on Bristol street- http://www.newportsmog.com/. Literally at the end of the runway at John Wayne, other side of the 73.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
It's still not censorship. You are not being suppressed..IB just wont publish some of what you may want to say.

Its IB's private system. You can have your own wall on the internet where you can publish anything you want.

And not illegal also..you have no 1st rights in someone else's space.
Speed? It's censorship when I write something that IB won't publish. Period. You can call it editorializing, wrap fuzzy puppies around it, but in the end it's censorship. It's not illegal, it's well within the purview of the publisher and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but it is censorship. It's OK. IB has no obligation to publish any of the dreck I write, none whatsoever. I agree with you, though that may seem strange.


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