Jim Devine

If parked on the street even if it's currently registered where I live it has to be moved (used). 72 hours is the max for not moving it, then they tag it. Usually it's some neighbor that turns it in.- to lessen the chance of being tagged as others have suggested register it elswhere
where they don't require smog checks. 6 months out of reg & they can tow it without notice 22651 (o)
Then they give you 72 hours to move it. After that, they tow it at your expense. No headlights= Calif vehicle code 22669 (d) . Other codes they can get you on= 22669 (a) , 22651(o) & 22651 (k). Voice of experiance here, The parking gestapo tagged a van of mine that was
currently registered and insured - they mark your tire & the street . You can't win. I feel for you

Meantime if the fees are paid up, you can get a 60 day entension ( a red stricker ) that you put in the rear window- cost is $ 50- in addition to the fees- it will give you some time to come up with a plan- it is a one time deal- not renewable

Otto Mechanic

Sorry for going off topic BC, understand you have a more immediate concern. It's strange, but the community of folks who frequent this board have, shall we say, "diverse" expertise? My personal background is all over the map, but you'll find other generalists like "The Docs" that are perfectly capable of discussing the ins and outs of nuclear and thermonuclear power until the cows come home.

It gets really hairy when we descend into quantum mechanics ...

Regards,

rjm65

BC,

It took 4 tries for me last November, the first 3 places each said their machine was down. One place I didn't even get a chance to get out of the car, guy just walked up and said sorry can't help you. Guess those old blue CA license plates are a giveaway. Another place told me to check back in a week, maybe they'd have it fixed by then.

I was finally able to find a place, Dekra smog in La Mesa, corner of Dallas and Fletcher Pkwy. It's a STAR station too. I was in and out in about 30 minutes.

I've always had to pay extra to get my '79 smogged, and if I recall it was above and beyond the non-OBDII price too.

The tech did mention that a lot of the shops just don't want to fool around with these older cars, hence the machine is down a lot.

Raymond

BC

Whey would they want to **** around with the older cars if they make the same 50-60 bucks with just a code read? They should just exempt certain cars, and make it easier to do so.

Otto Mechanic

California honestly believes people who maintain old classic cars should be punished. It doesn't have anything to do with pollution anymore.

BC

I don't think its that malicious. I just think the SJWs have invaded and taken hold and they don't even believe in industry, let alone cars.

Speedtoys

I think its a sign of most people dont vote.

Nobody likes it, yet it's still there..

And don't hide behind buckets...people that show up to vote make policy. People that dont use their vote well..make up names for those that do.

SJW is just the latest name/excuse.

Otto Mechanic

"Well, to some extent yes, but it's also a sign of bureaucratic overreach; many of the rules and regulations imposed in California don't result from a vote on measures or specific issues and are rarely faced with a referendum."

A better example than the smog rules and the gas tax might be shown by the California State Park service laying claim to the entire California coastline as a "state park" under its administration. I don't recall ever directly voting on this nor voting for a state representative who ran on a platform indicating support for the claim.

According to various park rangers I've spoken with (I own property that's an in-holding in California's oldest State Park so I talk to rangers a lot and I also volunteer to do trail maintenance and K9 search and rescue, which brings me into more than the usual amount of contact with State Park Rangers), there are no beaches in California where dogs are allowed off leash. Various local municipalities have chosen to ignore this claim (Carmel, Moro Bay, etc) and either openly allow dogs off leash on their beaches or "turn the other way" in certain areas that are only known to locals by word of mouth.

That's probably a better example of "creepy regulation". Few if any approve of it, but it remains a de facto State "law".

BC

I have no issue with labels. It helps society deal more efficiently with its naturally forming tribes.

rjm65

I think I paid closer to $75-$80 last time around, which I thought was pricey. I've always had to pay a surcharge to get my 928 smogged. Years past the car would be up on the rollers for a few minutes, they'd shut it down and then the visual inspection would take about 45 minutes. The issue for the future is how difficult is it going to be to find a place to smog test an older car. That is where maybe a waiver program might be required. I've thought about registering it in a county that only requires smog test for title transfers too.

The cars from BC (that's Baja Cal, not your place) are not as bad as they used to be 5-10 years ago. They're stricter at the border plus they have their own smog checks now too..just like California.

fiatrn

If I read this correctly, the op BC is taking his car to private shops in CA fo a state required smog test, and those shops are refusing to Perform the test?

Not refusing to Pass him, refusing to even inspect and measure his car?

That couldn't be more absurd. Can he call the State and report that "no one will measure my car" and have the state measure it?

Clearly there's a version of privatization that's failing miserably.

How can he be required to get it tested, but the testing stations are not required to test it?

Requiring the car to meet the same standards it met when new is one thing, but this is an entirely different level of obscene.

Otto Mechanic

Nor do I, and frankly I consider it a cheap shot. The folks named in the moniker "Social Justice Warrior" are self-aware and self-organizing, as I mentioned in an earlier version of my post that I accidentally deleted when I tried to clarify my opinion (fat fingered it).

SJW is a label that was both created and adopted by the demographic it's meant to represent; it isn't something imposed on them, they're self-described by the label and they embrace it as a badge of honor. Making the claim its use is some sort of criticism is just as absurd as condemning the use of the word "gay" to describe homosexual males; the community itself embraces the designation. It's truly advanced identity politics to condemn a "strait" individual for using the term "gay" to describe the gay demographic, but we've managed to endorse this sort of persistent "victimhood" as normal.

Otto Mechanic

It was (is) a social phenomenon carefully and completely described by a novel written in 1961 titled "Catch 22" by Joseph Heller. While it makes no sense, it's literally endemic in western society.

The Forgotten On

It isn't really about the word(s) itself. It is more about the context it is used in.

Otto Mechanic

Yes, exactly; a violation of the hidden rules? Not much different from talking or writing about ******s? That's a group that can make self-references with impunity, but woe be upon anyone outside the demographic who uses the word.

We call it linguistic Marxism?

PS: I see our host practices censorship and linguistic Marxism? The "N" word isn't even allowed as an example, or subject of debate?

If we can't even talk about it, how are we able to understand it? "Itsa Catcha Twentytwoa".

PPS: I'm reminded of a book on this subject written by Hanna Pitkin titled "Wittgenstein and Justice", a book I consider a seminal work on the subject of the role of language in determining the boundaries of consciousness. Worth a read if you have the time.