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Mark it is amateur racing . The word derived from French meaning for the love of. So no doubt all those who went to the effort to race for fun and spend lots of money doing it had a good time. The only requirement to to run in the 28 different classes being the willingness to spend money. Not that it is different from most hobbies.
And I do remember Anderson running his 928. I actually " fixed " the 1/4 panel when he got punched in that video. Officially his engine was a 5.4 liter but as you know all too well if youare not winning you are not likely to be protested and have the displacement checked...
I also remember that your qualifying times were so slow that technocally you should not have been allowed to even start the race.But the car count was so low they ignored their 115 % rule....
So have fun and good luck with the engine plans.
Jim, you seemed to be a little confused. 1. I lost track of how many Pros were there in the event. scotty b white, Taz harvey, andrew aglanti, etc etc.. 2. the money thing is true for pro racing. i saw more UNSKILLED driving in the pro races than i ever saw in 20 years of my amateur racing. 3. my times in the the pro races were usually only about 3 seconds a lap off the 200+ additional hp that Mark Anderson had. why be a dick and mention a qual time that was bellow the 115% mark when they had a ringer that made it tough to match /qualify for those that were not prepared. that happened only one time. so, you are dead wrong again. all you need is money to race pro as well. go buy a 997 GT3RSR, (or equiv exotic for about $500k) and run Pirelli world challenge. it happens all the time. you might be a little off the pace, but you can still run. i ran in 5 or 6 world challenge races. won nearly $300 bucks in each race for placing around 19th in each race. one time, i was under the qualifying limit and they let me race. (i had issues in practice and qual in that race..) but thank for pointing that out. big of you! do you know how fast it is to run a 1:46.xx on slicks and 1:47 on DOTs at Sonoma especially doing it in a 928 at 365rwhp?) do you remember marks time in WCGT with 200 more hp? 1:45 and some 1:46s..........and 1:39.9 when on slicks. 4. yes we know how the rules worked, but you made quite an Axx point about it earlier , maybe i should have protested to get the extra $1000 or more than i would have got in prize money by protesting?
Everyone runs on the edge of the rules, and sometimes those rule breaker changes, end up being part of the rules. im hoping that happens for the 928 for other classes we can run in SCCA.
It was fun, and it was fun had by all. I had a good time in the race , dicing with a TA2 car, and ended up in the top 10. Racing is NOT all about running the fastest lap times, its about lasting the race too as well as the weekend. otherwise, they would just give trophies for top times........that's also why some folks run endurance racing.... you should know this.
summary, I ran in the GT2 class race of the SCCA national championships , to be televised in a few weeks. i had a top 10 finish and all i did was piece my car together to run, and buy a set of tires with an entry fee. DID you see the hundreds of semis show up from all over the country? did you see the cars in my class? what do you think it costs to buy a TA2 (TransAm 2)car or a 997 -1 GT3? or build that NSX that won T1. we are talking over $250k. what part of racing did you think was NOT about the money? I raced, i had a race and had fun and it cost me a fraction of anyone in a similar place out of the 100s of cars that raced this last week.
So, you are critical of what now?? And by the way, it was the most fun doing it in a 928, for which you might have felt some pride for..... and also, by the way, after wringing out that same engine'd 928 for over 10 years now, it is still running...... unlike many others that have attempted.... but go ahead ...........bash away Jim! that's why i like racing. ........it cuts through the BS that you are putting out there. You want to try and beat me match my times, with the the same or less... go ahead. show up and race, otherwise,................
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It looks like you had beautiful weather and a damn good outcome. When you are a privateer, any race where you have fun and the car goes home looking like when it came is a WIN. And you did a lot better than just that! A top 10 finish? Exceptional. You have every right to be proud.
Remember:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt, April 23rd, 1910
It looks like you had beautiful weather and a damn good outcome. When you are a privateer, any race where you have fun and the car goes home looking like when it came is a WIN. And you did a lot better than just that! A top 10 finish? Exceptional. You have every right to be proud.
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Thanks Carl. Yes, it was a blast. A lot of work when you have zero help too! But, all worth it. the top 10 finish was just the icing on the cake. Watching a few of the races where my friends got podiums, dinners and all the stories, make a racing week like that , so much fun. But i have to say, the best part is driving/racing that 928 and listening to that engine scream!
Best of luck with your project too! very impressive to see all your technology in action and to see the results of all your work. when is the next event?
Mark
I had high hopes of driving Daytona road course this year in my car (I was there last year in my sons BMW E36) but when I tested my car on a chassis dyno last week, the clutch could not hold my motor. The clutch is in good shape, its just that it was holding 900 HP and now we have much more and it cannot hang on. So I'm in the process of upgrading the clutch to different/bigger/stronger. Transmission too. So I'll miss Daytona. The next event on my calendar is the April ECTA land speed event in Arkansas.
Lets see how far my efforts this year go, with getting the 928 into the Touring 1 class. I think it will take a GTS block with some 968heads and some .6" lift cams as well as the CF intake, THEN we push out the wheels 3" and we will have a 928 competitor in T1. More to come on that front.
Those are big changes from what you have now, so, is it a realistic expectation?
Those are big changes from what you have now, so, is it a realistic expectation?
Actually, it seems pretty simple. putting bigger valves in my heads, or at least, just doing a porting job, with some of Colin's cams, would be a simple change.........getting a 5.4 liter bottom end would be fairly straight forward. (re-ring , rebearing, balance and reassemble). since i made 335rwhp on the original engine 5 liter, and 375rwhp on the stroker, i have no doubt that the GTS motor could make something near what im seeing now., with the intake on top of that, it woudl be no problem.. (putting something like Greg Brown's intake on the GTS Bottom end). Then, widening the track by 3" and suddenly the car becomes able to run with the top 3 cars in Touring 1. the question would be buildng the GTS engine from a S4 engine, using a GTS crank rods and pistons, or a used GTS engine, OR using 968 pistons, stock S4 crank and custom rods.. Just talk now, but i still have a long way to go in gettting the 928 on the touring 1 list due to the missing VTS sheet with SCCA .
Here is the incar video of the start, the mid laps and any interesting passes. listen to that motor scream!! temps were cool the entire race and pressure was fine on the radiator by the way. (Sean was there and he was a witness! )
taking the old dog to redline on every shift, and look at the temps... cool as a cucumber after 30 mins. The leader passes by toward the end of the race.
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Great pics! I haven't forgotten you Mark - I'm still working on that manifold for ya!
Thanks Carl! A GREAT long term plan, is to put that on....... until then, Ill try some other tweaks too... right now,i need to get the chassis dialed in.. its like starting from scatch..almost . maybe its time to put a big cam on the engine!
I had some folks contact me regarding the race and they brought up a good point..... In the top 10 results of the GT2 runnoffs race, all but 3 cars were factory race cars or tubed frame racers.......so, if there was really a classed group in GT2 for production based racers, the 928 would have taken 3rd place......... the 928 did pretty darn good in my opinion..........and others as well.
I had some folks contact me regarding the race and they brought up a good point..... In the top 10 results of the GT2 runnoffs race, all but 3 cars were factory race cars or tubed frame racers.......so, if there was really a classed group in GT2 for production based racers, the 928 would have taken 3rd place......... the 928 did pretty darn good in my opinion..........and others as well.
Well the in-car vid was way better than the live broadcast for us 928 fans!
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