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Old 08-24-2018, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
I have a Hans shifter which I haven't installed yet, beautiful piece!

And, it's not installed because I have Carl's front ball-cup installed in my racecar, and at this point, I feel no need to replace it since it works so well.
I wouldn't run that in a race car, either.

Metal to metal pieces just beat each other to death and rarely survive for any length of time in a racing environment.

To survive real "racing" requires simple....and no metal to metal contact points. If I was building a 928 race car and wanted a "front guided" shift rod, I'd change that front ball cup to a teflon lined monoball, like I did with the 964 and 993 race cars.
Old 08-24-2018, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by worf928


I’ve put two of Hans’ full units on TTs over the last few months. I just used a lot of blue Loctite

On the flip side last week I removed the shift lever from a GT so as to be able to R&R the front ball cup.

The stock unit isn’t shy of parts either. And getting the two springs in is a lot of fun...

As for racing: it’s a crucible. I’m sure Hans would incorporate product improvements from observations produced in the crucible.
The "good thing" is that no one is really racing a 928 anymore, so one can get away with almost anything.

Going out and running a few club laps is quite different than running the 12 hours of Sebring, where everything tries to vibrate or pound off.

The maintenance after the 12 hours of Sebring was pretty simple.....Throw away the entire suspension, the axles, the transmission, the brakes, and the wheels. Rebuild the engine with a new crankcase.
Old 08-24-2018, 06:49 PM
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As the Lizard shifter has not been available for a few years now you can take it out of the equation.
Han's shifter is a work of art but I will never get to try one for obvious reasons.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ROG100
As the Lizard shifter has not been available for a few years now you can take it out of the equation.
Han's shifter is a work of art but I will never get to try one for obvious reasons.
If you'd quit breaking your clutch leg you could learn how to use one
Old 08-24-2018, 07:06 PM
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If you'd quit breaking your clutch leg you could learn how to use one
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The shifter that I made does use a teflon lined monoball, and at the bottom the stock bushings. So it is not metal on metal.
The pivot is mounted to the chassis yes, but the movement is not bound or stopped by the chassis, so if the engine and transmission twists slightly, the lever will simply rotate slightly. I've beaten the **** out of one with running a fair bit of power through the tranny, I did pull the tranny after a couple years. Resealed it a little and inspected the components. I saw zero additional wear. And it would only buzz if you had bronze bushings in the rear coupler which will buzz with a factory shifter as well.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
The "good thing" is that no one is really racing a 928 anymore, so one can get away with almost anything.

Going out and running a few club laps is quite different than running the 12 hours of Sebring, where everything tries to vibrate or pound off.

The maintenance after the 12 hours of Sebring was pretty simple.....Throw away the entire suspension, the axles, the transmission, the brakes, and the wheels. Rebuild the engine with a new crankcase.
Thanks for the reminder on why I don’t race anymore.

I will swing by next week Greg, thanks for the offer!

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Still watching the thread, thanks for the post Colin, that makes me feel better about leaving the shift kit in there as I do like the precise action
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I didn't break his leg..... no broken bones.... geez... try to help a guy out.... I truly feel bad though. Ken
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At this year's Sharks in Hell get together, AO and Hans installed his shifter in the Coca Cola race car. AO said it shifted great when he tested it...

Now that the car has some more miles on it, I hope AO gives us an update.




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