Deleting spare tire?
#16
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Not a 928 but the newer cars don't even include (or offer) a spare. Porsche include with my car a squeeze bottle of "fix a flat" goo, and a 12V electric inflator kit. Doubt I'd use it if I had cell reception as my insurance includes roadside assistance but I guess I'd be forced to if it was my only option. Big issue with relying on that is if you have a sidewall tear or puncture...no patching for that
#17
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Or, it could be mounted and you're driving along on a 30YO carcass of a tire that was never meant to last 6 years, and it explodes, causing you to spin out, and the removed wheel(which is not fitting in the well) in the back takes out the seat back, and causes you to rear end into a bridge abutment, which crushes the back of the car and it all blows up in a fiery ball of flame. I would not trust the emer spare in these cars more than 5MPH for 10 min.
1.) Start hitchhiking. Get picked up by a good Samaritan who turns out to be adept at ax murdering.
2.) Start hitchhiking. No one picks you up. After walking for hours you finally see a light from a old farm house in the distance. The farmer invites you in and gives you a spare room to sleep in. Around 3am you wake up to see shadowy figures standing over your bed. Before you can get a word out, the next thing you remember is waking up naked and tethered to a wagon wheel.
3.) Decide to wait until morning light to start hitchhiking to avoid options 1 and 2. While sleeping on the side of the highway in your car you get rear ended by a big rig driven by a trucker tweaked out on an Ambien and Ketamine cocktail. Sweet dreams.
4.) Decide to sleep in the woods next to your car to avoid option #3. You get mauled and subsequently eaten by a mountain lion. Yummy.
5.) Install the spare. If it inflates, put the hazards on and drive at 30mph (you won't spin out). A few hours later you check into a Holiday Inn Express and are relaxing in bed watching the free HBO. If it doesn't inflate, put the hazards on and drive at 20mph (you won't spin out and you ruin the spare rim not your good one). A little more than a few hours later you check into a Holiday Inn Express and are relaxing in bed watching the free HBO.
Last edited by GT6ixer; 06-09-2018 at 01:08 AM.
#20
this has me thinking about my spare which I designed my sub inside of.... does the spare fit over my F50 front brakes? Hmm I'd still rather my car be rolled onto a flat bed ruining a spare than one of my Fikse wheels
#22
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The other issue is whether you could even get the hatch closed with one of your steamroller rear tires sitting in the back...
#23
a 335 30 18 will fit in the passenger seat just fine. Passenger fits on the side of the road just fine.... lol
#24
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AAA used to come and install your good spare. Maybe I’m old and think that a flatbed ride is a stretch for a flat tire.
I carry the string patch kit but have not yet needed it. The factory spare is bolted in place, counter to a few statements above. If yours isn’t, get the little cup and bolt from your favorite vendor. I’m not sure I’d plan on going very far on the little goon spare. It’s more likely I’d rethink my strategy depending on immediate circumstances. Having the spare offers one more option to the list.
I carry the string patch kit but have not yet needed it. The factory spare is bolted in place, counter to a few statements above. If yours isn’t, get the little cup and bolt from your favorite vendor. I’m not sure I’d plan on going very far on the little goon spare. It’s more likely I’d rethink my strategy depending on immediate circumstances. Having the spare offers one more option to the list.
#25
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2 things:
- the law of the universe dictates that as soon as you get rid of something, you will need it the next day.
- if you want a spare but don't like the original one, a younger 996/986+ compact spare should fit on a 928 still. and maybe even tires are still available.
- the law of the universe dictates that as soon as you get rid of something, you will need it the next day.
- if you want a spare but don't like the original one, a younger 996/986+ compact spare should fit on a 928 still. and maybe even tires are still available.
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Someone post a photo of this, none of my 5 cars have it and I cannot recall ever seeing such a device. It always puzzled me how it could not be held down but I never looked into it.
#28
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I could not find a photo of my spare bolted in place. The spare, retaining hardware, and compressor are locked up in my storage by next town over.
So, this image from Rennlist will have to suffice:
So, this image from Rennlist will have to suffice:
#29
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I've seen this posted countless times but never any proof from Porsche.
So you're saying Porsche designed a car which is no longer safe to drive if you are using the spare tire?
I call shenanigans on that theory.
The fact that it's not even secured down has always bothered me. In the event of a bad crash the only thing keeping that tire from becoming a projectile is a very thin piece of plastic and some carpet. Frankly from a safety aspect, it's a horrible design.
So you're saying Porsche designed a car which is no longer safe to drive if you are using the spare tire?
I call shenanigans on that theory.
The fact that it's not even secured down has always bothered me. In the event of a bad crash the only thing keeping that tire from becoming a projectile is a very thin piece of plastic and some carpet. Frankly from a safety aspect, it's a horrible design.
And yes, the spare tire should be bolted to the car, as shown by the picture from the previous message.
#30
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Skpyle, that would fit the period, my 87 944S has that same washer but a bolt with a handle on it to hold the spare up (it is mounted sideways against the rear panel and no I don't think it offers crash protection).
I'll look in my 928S and see if the bolt is there. I don't have the spare but I can put the one from my S in there easily if I go any distance.
Edit: Yep, there is a bolt and a keeper bracket. Which means the spare tire should be mounted and secured. It probably is critical since the 928S Porsche engineers built it that way, and the only way I think it could be removed is if you use 10W40 oil in the engine as opposed to 20W50 (which probably weighs more and restores the balance after removing the tire).
More to the point, you can use the bolt and washer/bracket from a 944 to secure your spare. I'll be swapping in my spare from the 944S since I drive this car more.
I'll look in my 928S and see if the bolt is there. I don't have the spare but I can put the one from my S in there easily if I go any distance.
Edit: Yep, there is a bolt and a keeper bracket. Which means the spare tire should be mounted and secured. It probably is critical since the 928S Porsche engineers built it that way, and the only way I think it could be removed is if you use 10W40 oil in the engine as opposed to 20W50 (which probably weighs more and restores the balance after removing the tire).
More to the point, you can use the bolt and washer/bracket from a 944 to secure your spare. I'll be swapping in my spare from the 944S since I drive this car more.
Last edited by Christopher Zach; 06-10-2018 at 07:15 PM.