Deleting spare tire?
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Deleting spare tire?
in the unfortunately event of a flat tire, most likely, I would never use the spare. with AAA just a free tow away, it
seems ridiculous to get it out, inflate it and mount. and how easy it is to uninflated, and put back in the wheel well?
thinking of just taking it out. if I did I would line the inside with sound deadener. (only dreaming of a sub woofer)
how many have taken it out, and would a good sound proofing add any noticeable difference? or perhaps the spare
itself acts as a sound barrier??
seems ridiculous to get it out, inflate it and mount. and how easy it is to uninflated, and put back in the wheel well?
thinking of just taking it out. if I did I would line the inside with sound deadener. (only dreaming of a sub woofer)
how many have taken it out, and would a good sound proofing add any noticeable difference? or perhaps the spare
itself acts as a sound barrier??
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Mine is out, I consider two scenarios:
1. I'm local, not far from home. I'm going to flatbed it home versus risking my life on the side of the highway
2. I'm on a trip, in that event there will not be any room in the car for my wheel with the flat tire, not leaving it behind so I'm calling a flatbed anyway.
1. I'm local, not far from home. I'm going to flatbed it home versus risking my life on the side of the highway
2. I'm on a trip, in that event there will not be any room in the car for my wheel with the flat tire, not leaving it behind so I'm calling a flatbed anyway.
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1. I'm local, not far from home. I'm going to flatbed it home versus risking my life on the side of the highway
2. I'm on a trip, in that event there will not be any room in the car for my wheel with the flat tire, not leaving it behind so I'm calling a flatbed anyway.
2. I'm on a trip, in that event there will not be any room in the car for my wheel with the flat tire, not leaving it behind so I'm calling a flatbed anyway.
I know you are a fan of the DEI insulation products. can you comment on whether there is any
advantage to putting some of their stuff in there for noise and heat?? no complaints, just wondering
if I can make better.
#4
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Mines are in:
- It could save my *** in the middle of nowhere.
- It is a part of the structure of the car in the case of a rear end crash.
- It is a part of the perfect front and rear balance of these cars.
- It could save my *** in the middle of nowhere.
- It is a part of the structure of the car in the case of a rear end crash.
- It is a part of the perfect front and rear balance of these cars.
#5
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I live in Southern California, where for the most part, it is death to change a tire by the side of any freeway. I kept the spare in there solely for period correctness because my 54K mile 88S4 is a little time capsule, but I would never, ever consider its use in all but the most dire circumstances. Around here Triple A is minutes away. Parking lots are abundant, I can pull the car in somewhere safe and just wait.
On my other cars that had spares, the ones in which I have greatly deviated from a stock condition, they don't have them anymore.
Oh, and to add perspective, on the newer cars (built after 2000), they don't even COME with a spare from the factory!
On my other cars that had spares, the ones in which I have greatly deviated from a stock condition, they don't have them anymore.
Oh, and to add perspective, on the newer cars (built after 2000), they don't even COME with a spare from the factory!
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Originally Posted by merchauser
I know you are a fan of the DEI insulation products. can you comment on whether there is any advantage to putting some of their stuff in there for noise and heat?? no complaints, just wondering if I can make better.
So you're saying Porsche designed a car which is no longer safe to drive if you are using the spare tire?
I call shenanigans on that theory.
The fact that it's not even secured down has always bothered me. In the event of a bad crash the only thing keeping that tire from becoming a projectile is a very thin piece of plastic and some carpet. Frankly from a safety aspect, it's a horrible design.
The head of Ferrari once said their customers do not change tires, they call a service.
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The only car in which I am aware that the spare is part of the crash protection is in the 914, where the front mounted spare sits down low and between a bulkhead and the front fender. Also, on the 914, the spare provides air pressure that drives the windshield washers.
Even in that car, in the 914 community, the steel (heavy) spare is often deleted. I know it is in mine. Besides, crash protection and 914 aren't usually words that go in the same sentence....
Even in that car, in the 914 community, the steel (heavy) spare is often deleted. I know it is in mine. Besides, crash protection and 914 aren't usually words that go in the same sentence....
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I just put mine back in after years of having a sub in there. I agree if something happens I will call CAA/AAA as well, but if I'm in the middle of nowhere it's good to know I have a spare.
For the sub I just installed an alpine compact sub on the back of the passenger rear seat back. Fit's perfect, keeps my hatch free and the spare plus compressor on board just in case. Vary happy with it so far.
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-at61e9...ne-PWE-S8.html
For the sub I just installed an alpine compact sub on the back of the passenger rear seat back. Fit's perfect, keeps my hatch free and the spare plus compressor on board just in case. Vary happy with it so far.
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-at61e9...ne-PWE-S8.html
#9
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Takes 15 minutes to change a tire if you get a flat or a tire blows out. 15 minutes max... VS your entire afternoon being waisted waiting around for a tow truck to get your car back home, and then taking car of it(minimum 4+ hours). Whatever plans you had, will be lost. It’s a no brainer, keep the spare in
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Takes 15 minutes to change a tire if you get a flat or a tire blows out. 15 minutes max... VS your entire afternoon being waisted waiting around for a tow truck to get your car back home, and then taking car of it(minimum 4+ hours). Whatever plans you had, will be lost. It’s a no brainer, keep the spare in
I also have no place in my 928 for a 285 sized wheel / tire, I'm not going to leave that on the side of the road.
Fun side note, talk to any cop how many times they've assisted someone putting on their spare only to find out it's flat or not road worthy. Or worse yet how often people are injured or killed while trying to change a tire on the side of the road.
If it's such a no brainer, why do so many new cars not even have a provision for one?
I've changed tires on the side of the road, it's not fun, it's not safe and every cop will tell you don't bother, call a service.
#11
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I broke down in my 928 last summer in Montana (not flat tire related). Was able to get it to a rest stop. It was 5 PM. Middle of nowhere. No cell reception. I asked 4 different people if I could try their phone. No one had reception. Fortunately there was an old pay phone at the rest stop. Called AAA. I have AAA Premium which includes free 200 mile tow. It took their dispatch 3 hours to finally tell me that the nearest tow company (an hour away) with a flat bed could not come get me because their driver would exceed his legal hourly quota for the day if he did. They said they could pick me up the next morning at 10 am. Luckily for me a cousin of mine was an hour and a half away in Missoula that day and came got me. I gave AAA the approval to pick the car up without me present.
Now had I had a flat tire and had my cousin not been in Missoula that evening, having that little spare would have spared me a real $hitty night. Which easily could have been even $hittier if I would have broke down on the highway and not the rest stop. Don't assume that cell reception is a given, or that your friendly roadside service company can come get you. My full size tire will fit in the back with the rear seats down and probably in a pinch in the passenger seat with the seat back reclined.
Now had I had a flat tire and had my cousin not been in Missoula that evening, having that little spare would have spared me a real $hitty night. Which easily could have been even $hittier if I would have broke down on the highway and not the rest stop. Don't assume that cell reception is a given, or that your friendly roadside service company can come get you. My full size tire will fit in the back with the rear seats down and probably in a pinch in the passenger seat with the seat back reclined.
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Or, it could be mounted and you're driving along on a 30YO carcass of a tire that was never meant to last 6 years, and it explodes, causing you to spin out, and the removed wheel(which is not fitting in the well) in the back takes out the seat back, and causes you to rear end into a bridge abutment, which crushes the back of the car and it all blows up in a fiery ball of flame. I would not trust the emer spare in these cars more than 5MPH for 10 min.
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Or, it could be mounted and you're driving along on a 30YO carcass of a tire that was never meant to last 6 years, and it explodes, causing you to spin out, and the removed wheel(which is not fitting in the well) in the back takes out the seat back, and causes you to rear end into a bridge abutment, which crushes the back of the car and it all blows up in a fiery ball of flame.
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Seconded on tire repair kit, I did that on my front tire when the screw that embedded in it fell out and it went flat. I wouldn't trust the repair for any length of time (I would be concerned at 120+ mph) but it did get me through a few days while my new tires were shipped to the tire store.
So put a repair kit, a can of fix a flat, and you should be in business.That said, did they nail down anything? The battery is not held down, the spare tire is not held down, what gives?
So put a repair kit, a can of fix a flat, and you should be in business.That said, did they nail down anything? The battery is not held down, the spare tire is not held down, what gives?