Anyone want to build back my 928, or buy it in pieces?
#16
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Working in the garage alone just isn't much fun lately. It's like going to the gym. You know you should but it's just easier to sit on your butt at the end of the night than drag your *** out of the house if there isn't anyone there pulling you to do it...
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When my 86.5 caught on fire I was divided on what to do with it. After I got the insurance money I could have easily walked away and bought another 928. However knowing Greg Brown and his work and ethics I chose to have Greg rebuild the car. Is GB expensive? Knowing that you are going to have a car that is near perfect in the end and you don't have to be concerned about some wrench out there learning on your car, GB is a great deal. Spend the $1400 or so to get your car to Anaheim along with all the bits and get it done right and your car will give back 100,000 miles. When it's done fly out, spend a weekend at the beach and motor home. Greg will walk you thru every process and bit and you will know about your car when it's finished than if you were to build it yourself. Just to hang around the shop and talk to the crew, Jake, Kile, Travis and Juan...you learn quickly that everyone there is really into their 928 craft. The only down side of this is you may end up with a 6.5 liter motor like I have. It's a contagious club house.
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My quick fix WP / TB job is a bit of everything now as I keep buying parts so it moved to the wheel well, pod removal for the odometer gear, console out for radio and wiring, intake off for injector wiring etc. etc.. Embarrassed to say 3 years later it hasn't moved. Will try the elephant approach as I love the car.
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Fortunately, these cars are worth the effort, being one of the very best, if not the very best, cars ever made.
And finally, after all of these years, people are beginning to figure it out....which reflects some of the prices we've been seeing.
The effort/cost to bring some of these cars back to life is worth it!
Rob Edwards and I are currently working together restoring an '89 GT (relatively low mileage, interesting DMV history) that we got from Stan. If I'm **** (I am), Rob is esophagial. Crazy energy, incredible at the details. We're completely freshening the entire car....the interior, the paint, the engine, the transmission, and EVERYTHING else. it will be an absolutely perfect '89 GT....turn the key and drive a perfect example of an '89 GT anywhere you want to go....which is what all of these cars should be!
Two years ago....I would not have even considered restoring this car. Would have just sold off the parts.
Today....an '89 GT is worth saving....just like the OP's '91 S4!
Done right, these cars are wonderful. Done anywhere less than 100%.....where they don't perform correctly, where you have to pay someone to do things a second (or third time), or they are not reliable (I HATE being stuck on the side of the road more than anything else in life) they really suck.
You're doing it right, for what you have as a starting point. Just don't do anything else to the car, until you get the engine back together and running! Nothing! The "slippery slope" is what makes these cars overwhelming....unless it is what you do all day long.
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Have fun with your 928's people!
greg brown
714 879 9072
GregBBRD@aol.com
Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
#21
I’ll be doing the same with the higher mile 89GT sitting in my garage.
RE some if the other posts, I actually enjoy the solitude of it. Especially if work is busy or mind-****ing - I need to be in there alone.
RE some if the other posts, I actually enjoy the solitude of it. Especially if work is busy or mind-****ing - I need to be in there alone.
#22
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Love this thread!!
Just getting my head around pulling my engine again and starting all over again..
Then I saw this.
Wish I had the cash because your car is what I wanted when I bought my red 87 S4.
Will be following this one..With envy in my heart.
Best of luck,
Just getting my head around pulling my engine again and starting all over again..
Then I saw this.
Wish I had the cash because your car is what I wanted when I bought my red 87 S4.
Will be following this one..With envy in my heart.
Best of luck,
#23
I don't see how this number changes if he has to pay someone to put his car back together and get it fully sorted.
#24
Team Owner
That GT is in the right hands , I dont have the resources to to do what your team is doing,
so best to put it in the right place.
so best to put it in the right place.
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In this case, I'm guessing that the OP wants this car as a reliable driver that he can take anywhere, anytime, so I doubt the total amount spent is really the main concern, today.
While it is generally a fool's.game to look at any car as an investment, the future on these 928s is brighter than any other car I can think of, with an entry price less than 500K.
IF the economy of this country survives, this car will easily be worth over 75k in the next five years, minimum.
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I'm pretty sure I have over $30k spent on the car and parts to date. I don't expect that I'll recoup that, but I would like something reasonable for both parties. Otherwise, I will rent a storage area and move it out of my life until it is worth something to someone (me?) someday.
Thanks for reading,
Louis
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#27
Three Wheelin'
You need a fridge in the garage with some drinks. You also need a TV and a stereo. Not a crap $20 iPhone dock. Grab a CD of your favorite head banging tunes and it'll get you in the mood. The TV so you don't miss any motorsport. Then imagine cruising down the road with those tunes banging away.
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#29
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The 1991 S4 is an awesome vehicle. They are actually fairly rare - only a few hundred made - the tail end of the high volume S4 line. And (almost) all the major problems were solved by '91.
Mine is US #1 and while it's got plenty of expensive stuff left to go before perfection, it's at a point where it is a great driver. I paid about $20K and I'm about $30K into it, just like you. However, I am a wrenching noob and would never pull an engine by myself, so you're way ahead of me. But the car is just a blast to drive, and so so pretty!
If you feel like you absolutely must sell it, go ahead - you've got half a dozen bidders waiting (though I think by reputation some of them might want an extra favorable price). But I think you should restore it - Greg apparently has some cycles so send it to him. I'd be curious what that costs.
Summary: Don't part it out. Sell it or restore it.
Mine is US #1 and while it's got plenty of expensive stuff left to go before perfection, it's at a point where it is a great driver. I paid about $20K and I'm about $30K into it, just like you. However, I am a wrenching noob and would never pull an engine by myself, so you're way ahead of me. But the car is just a blast to drive, and so so pretty!
If you feel like you absolutely must sell it, go ahead - you've got half a dozen bidders waiting (though I think by reputation some of them might want an extra favorable price). But I think you should restore it - Greg apparently has some cycles so send it to him. I'd be curious what that costs.
Summary: Don't part it out. Sell it or restore it.