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Old 11-20-2014, 05:04 PM
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I'd probably be interested in one of those 1.8/2.5 BH thingies too.
There is a Quicktime steel BH available but it is pricey.

An alternative I've been thinking about is the Ford Duratec 2.3/2.5 I-4s, they are about the same dimensions as the 1.8 VW but have longer strokes.
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Exciting build - keep up the good work!

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Old 11-21-2014, 12:28 AM
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A late model VW motor into an old Porsche? If you do that, you won't have to worry about your #2 rod bearing going south and possibly kicking a rod through the block, other weird oil pressure gremlins, haunted DMEs, unexplainable overheating issues...you'll just be bored...
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I'm also in for a bellhousing. Maybe 2!
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Any updates?
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A recent trip to the boneyard and reading through his thread on Pelican have made me ponder the possibility of putting a 1.8T automatic driveline into a 944 with the trans at the back of course
Would be a sweet cruiser.
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I'm also curious how the project is going!
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Wife's birthday today and headed on vacation next week. Look for a good update in February.
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Originally Posted by tempest411 View Post
unexplainable overheating issues...you'll just be bored...
You wish.

I hope the OP engine has the old thermostat.

New VW engines have thermostats that are not thermostats, but electronic valve that is controlled by 3 dimensional map. This, when something is wrong is definition of unexplainable cooling system.

It is called Electronically mapped cooling system and gets info from:

1: vehicle speed
2: engine load
3: engine speed
4: water temperature
5: cabin heating control status
6: throttle position
7: ?

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_222.pdf

http://www.mahle-aftermarket.com/c12...rmostat_en.pdf

One of the most stupid solutions on this planet.
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Old 03-09-2015, 01:02 PM
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Good grief! The cooling system on European cars have always been needlessly complicated. The thermostat system on a stock 944 is bad enough....I assume everyone with a heartbeat is familiar with the cooling system on small-block Chevrolets...the old ones, not those LS1 thingies so many are bastardizing 944s with. Every cooling system should be iust like those. A bear minimum of hoses and connections, easily servicable, and perfectly functional.
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:03 AM
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If you want a basic cooling system, buy an air-cooled.

I don't mind any system with a radiator, thermostat, and fan thermoswitch.

But throw a controller or computer in there, and I'm NOPE. It probably reduces emissions by 1ppm, increases revenue due to frequent service & parts, and makes repairs require even more special knowledge so they have to come back to the dealers. Good business move.
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Originally Posted by tempest411 View Post
Good grief! The cooling system on European cars have always been needlessly complicated. The thermostat system on a stock 944 is bad enough....I assume everyone with a heartbeat is familiar with the cooling system on small-block Chevrolets...the old ones, not those LS1 thingies so many are bastardizing 944s with. Every cooling system should be iust like those. A bear minimum of hoses and connections, easily servicable, and perfectly functional.
How is the 944 thermostat a bad design?
99% of cases where people suspect a thermostat is due to using **** parts or neglecting maintenance.

The 944 thermostat is like any other thermostat and does its job well.
I threw mine in with the waterpump in 2012 and on 100*+ days, going uphills with AC on the water temperature still barely gets above the middle line. And in the snowy mountains in the wintertime I get heat in the cabin within a mile of driving when it's 30s F outside.

As for the 944 system...what's so complex about it?
Fill the water tank, water goes into the radiator, into the engine, back to the radiator.
If it gets too hot a small hose routes water back to the tank to expand.

Heater either lets water circulate to the dash or it doesn't, then routes back to the pump to recirculate and warm up you and the engine faster by (a rather ingenious solution IMO) running the return pipe over the exhaust manifold.
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Appreciate the interest - keeps me motivated to keep pushing forward.

These engines have an old fashioned thermostat. If they didn't then you could always put an inline thermostat on like a Landrover Discovery 2 or E30 M3.

Update - chopped up a couple things:

1) B5 Audi A4 Transmission. Bell housing/starter flange scans.
2) 944 Transmission. Torque tube face scan.

Parts came back from blasting today and are heading out to the 3D scan shop shortly. Progress was at a standstill during the coldest months of the winter but picking back up again now... it was nearly 50F here today.

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