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Old 04-15-2015, 06:57 PM
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6.0 v12 merc.
Old 04-15-2015, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey_audiogeek
Sweet!

Now that's done, what's next? 4,8,12...?

http://thekneeslider.com/callaway-cy...aha-inline-4s/
That looks like fun...wonder on $$$ ??
Assuming billet crankcase and crank. Suppose they keep all the stock rods, pistons though.
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
That looks like fun...wonder on $$$ ??
Assuming billet crankcase and crank. Suppose they keep all the stock rods, pistons though.
Not on their website now so maybe a one-off.

Would love to build a modern BRM V16 engine from a quad of Honda CB400SF engines, and supercharged with a Vortech V-5 F (centrifugal and straight-cut gears like the original).
Should be "no problem" to get about 425hp at 10,500rpm like the original...

BRM V16 is the scariest engine noise ever!

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Tacho seems to move weirdly
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If someone wants to install the BMW v12, it will cost $18k, not including engine or car of course. Dinsdale over at Piranha brothers has an M70 on hand for mock up. I'll design and machine all adapters necessary. The only unknown is whether a hood scoop is needed or not.
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Originally Posted by morghen
18?
No, 18k
Custom headers, oil pan, cable tb's and Megasquirt 3 pro is required. I have the torque tube adapter and custom clutch components already worked out.

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Originally Posted by xschop
No, 18k
Custom headers, oil pan, cable tb's and Megasquirt 3 pro is required. I have the torque tube adapter and custom clutch components already worked out.
I just talked with him and he said he will throw in the 88k mile m70 and modded hood if need be with a swap.
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scoop/bump for sure.
the m70 is about as tall as an ls1 but 6+" longer...guys have to cut the hood ribs to clear the ls1 intake as is.
hell, i tried a 944-vendor fuel rail pressure gauge on my standard 944 engine, with collapsed engine mounts (so engine is sitting lower than normal) and it dented the hood on first close.
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Originally Posted by xschop
If someone wants to install the BMW v12, it will cost $18k, not including engine or car of course. Dinsdale over at Piranha brothers has an M70 on hand for mock up. I'll design and machine all adapters necessary. The only unknown is whether a hood scoop is needed or not.
For $18k, they must be smoking that OG kush. $1k for the engine, plus enough time, mechanical aptitude, and additional funds could get it done http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/4985460615.html
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Originally Posted by 944meister
For $18k, they must be smoking that OG kush. $1k is much more reasonable http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/4985460615.html
That's a great deal if it self-installs.
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R[QUOTE=944meister;12220090]For $18k, they must be smoking that OG kush. $1k for the engine, plus enough time, mechanical aptitude, and additional funds could get it done http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/4985460615.html[/QUOTE
No OG kush here, sport. Please put a price on your time, how long will a project like this take? How much additional funds are needed ? Do you have the appropriate skills? Have you ever done this before? My guess is No. Have the skills and the funds? Doubt it.
If you ever rode in a Piranha bros. car you wouldn't question the price. You'd start saving your allowance.
Best regards, Dinsdale Piranha
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Originally Posted by mikey_audiogeek
Sweet!

Now that's done, what's next? 4,8,12...?

http://thekneeslider.com/callaway-cy...aha-inline-4s/
just to keep upping the ante, how about a W16 from a Veyron?

Actually, I was wondering if a VW W8 would fit? just out of pure academic curiosity... Width might be an issue, but the length could see the engine mounted slightly further back to preserve balance.
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W8 is about as wide as the engine bay.
Length and height no problem but you'd need to re-make the front end to fit it.
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I have done a few adaptation projects myself, mostly small scale projects. But i've done them properly, meaning i did the design, i did the development based on initial CAD and measurements, i did drawings & prototypes for fitting and testing purposes and finally i had the parts made in high quality worksmanship.
It actually really adds up to a lot of cash even for small projects and i didnt count the hours i spent working.
18K seems like a lot of money, and its easy to say its not worth it, because its not...but if you want to do such a project properly, you have to bare the costs of highly educated professionals developing the concept into a real thing, prototypes and ultimately manufacturing and material costs of the final product.

Would i pay 18K for a V12 928? Never, but i do think that doing it right would probably cost quite a lot.



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