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Old 12-12-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Butters944
Wait, am I getting this right? >buy 968 crank >install in 944 motor >??? >gain 60 hp
I have a 3.0 if your interested in bringing the 2.7 up here we could work something out
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If you just wanted to put a 3.0 crank into a 2.5NA engine you would need custom pistons similar to the 2.8L turbo piston, the cost of these would make you think hard about using a 3.0 block and 16v pistons, assuming they can be relieved for the 8v head, which would need to be modded... and then you'd decide to just fit the 3.0 16v engine... and the cost of that swap makes one consider buying the 3.0 engine with the car included and just do a driver swap.
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Originally Posted by travisgreen
Do u need the whole engine or just the internals?
whole thing

a 3.0 8v would be nice too
Old 12-12-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
whole thing a 3.0 8v would be nice too
I have that too
Old 12-12-2013, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
whole thing a 3.0 8v would be nice too
Oh nv that's not for sale tho, just the 3.0 16v vario
Old 12-12-2013, 03:55 PM
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i will do more research on it. I think I will do 3.0 crank and custom piston.
I think it's good start here :
http://www.broadfootracing.com/performance_parts.htm
Old 12-12-2013, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by phlfly
i will do more research on it. I think I will do 3.0 crank and custom piston.
I think it's good start here :
http://www.broadfootracing.com/performance_parts.htm
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...ot-racing.html
Old 12-13-2013, 05:21 AM
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If you want some one with a good rep. and knowledge call Cris White @ http://www.944enhancement.com/ for your piston needs.
...not BFR!
Old 12-14-2013, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Voith
3.0 crank will fit 2.7 block, since it is exactly the same block.
Nope. Sorry, the 2.7 block is not identical to the 3.0. The 3.0 has more clearance cast into the bottom of the block and into the crank girdle for rod rotational clearance - which it needs for the additional stroke.

If you throw a 3.0 crank at a 2.7 block your rods will likely hit the inside of the case (depending on the rod used). You can clearance by hand if you're careful, or a Bridgeport does a professional looking job.
Old 12-15-2013, 06:53 AM
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Either buy an S2/968 engine and swap it in, or sell your car and buy a turbo, S2, or 968.
Old 12-15-2013, 01:25 PM
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its true. Actually I was thinking to do so.
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Originally Posted by michaelmount123
Nope. Sorry, the 2.7 block is not identical to the 3.0. The 3.0 has more clearance cast into the bottom of the block and into the crank girdle for rod rotational clearance - which it needs for the additional stroke.

If you throw a 3.0 crank at a 2.7 block your rods will likely hit the inside of the case (depending on the rod used). You can clearance by hand if you're careful, or a Bridgeport does a professional looking job.
Carrillo or Pauter rods should clear but it's probably cheaper to machine the required clearance than buy those rods.

Really though, as others have said, the cheapest route is to fit a 3.0L engine complete rather than mod a 2.5L engine to a 3.0L
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Originally Posted by michaelmount123
Nope. Sorry, the 2.7 block is not identical to the 3.0. The 3.0 has more clearance cast into the bottom of the block and into the crank girdle for rod rotational clearance - which it needs for the additional stroke.

If you throw a 3.0 crank at a 2.7 block your rods will likely hit the inside of the case (depending on the rod used). You can clearance by hand if you're careful, or a Bridgeport does a professional looking job.
I forgot about that, but the rest is pretty much the same. (I think)

Btw: is there any known case of successful modification to this stupid water passage change? I was looking at 3.0 list and nobody seems to be using 951 head with 3.0 block.
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Originally Posted by Voith
...Btw: is there any known case of successful modification to this stupid water passage change? I was looking at 3.0 list and nobody seems to be using 951 head with 3.0 block.
From what I have read it can be done but requires some careful welding. I think why most people don't go that route is because you are still left with the smaller valves of the 2.5 head and it's easier and probably cheaper and more effective to just bolt on the 2.7 bigger valve head.


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