rsabeebe

porsche really did throw everything they possibly could into the engine bay of the 951! this has to be the worst engine ever to work on - just the airbox alone, to get the AFM out, is way over complicated. their goal must have been 'you need to remove 20 things to access 1' - "no one will ever want to work on this!!" <evil laugh>

how do you DIYers manage it? Valium, Xanax, anti-depressants...?

catamount

How? That's an easy one to answer, a beer fridge in the garage. :-D

Butters944

Still easier to work on than 90% of new cars nowadays...

Dougs951S

Agreed^^ I think the 951 engine is a breeze to work on. If you think its tough, go buy a honda or something

konakat

A K&N cone filter doesn't give any more power, but being able to remove it with a single hose clamp easily justifies using one.

odurandina

the Good:

how about a legit powerplant option that's not from GM?



the Bad: God that engine sounds like dog**** - and only 2 and a half liters.

Mueller944s2

try a 928

ian

Beer fridge for the win, unless I am pulling the turbo or replacing the clutch, and in that case I need to head to the scotch cabinet.......

K&N filter on the 951, I don't know if there have been any dyno tests, but I am willing to bet the filter causes a power loss. The factory system brings in cold air, the K&N open filter sucks in hot air coming off of the intercooler and radiator. Even if it makes the engine bay slightly easier to work in, it is still a bad idea.

mytrplseven

[QUOTE=odurandina;10879782]the Good:

how about a legit powerplant option that's not from GM?


I wonder if.......

odurandina

I did.

what was that? 2006?

crashed and burned on that ****box.

theedge

Actually its not that bad.

On my 93 Passat, the motor mounts must be unbolted and the engine lifted to remove one of the control arm bolts.

The airbox is way worse than a 951, even to change the filter.

I wont even go into the whole cam chains, tensioners, pads, etc. Especially since to do the lower one requires the transmission come out.

And if you want real fun, try working on a Boxster....

rsabeebe

i'd wind up too drunk to put everything back together...

guess i'm just getting old.

A breeze? No way. My 95.5 Audi S6 was a breeze compared to this thing. all BMWs were easier - even S14 and S38 powerplants.

agreed. i will probably go this route just for the simplicity. tell me why it makes sense for the 2 front bolts of the bottom of the air box to be open (slip) brackets, yet the rear bracket is closed with minimal access due to the location of the AFM? just make all three slip types. they never heard of clips for the air box?

owned one. honestly thought it was easier, but my memory could be wearing rosy colored glasses.

Butters944

It took half an hour on my exs 2000ish new beetle just to get to the darn battery box!!

HoBoJoe

New cars suck for working on, but the 951 is no picnic. I'll take a 90s honda/acura to work on any day over a P-car. Driving, that's a different story.

Speaking of engines, I haven't even seen the engine in my Cayman yet. I should probably check and make sure it's there.

MAGK944

951's....easy peasy.

I spent a day replacing just the coolant reservoir on my 996 and don't get me started on spark plugs and coil packs on that car.