944 Vs. Civic 2.2L VTEC
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I'm to lazy to find a Honda board, do any of you know the specs for a 95-01 civic 2 door 2.2L VTEC? I'm probably going to run him and win of course, just wondering how far in my rearview he'll be...
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I don't know, because Honda never produced a 2.2L civic in those years.
BTW, the '96-2000 cars are similar. But the '95 and 2001 cars are of a different vintage.
Assuming he has a '99-2000 Si, he will do 7.1 0-60, have a curb weight of 2612lbs, and have 160hp.
BTW, the '96-2000 cars are similar. But the '95 and 2001 cars are of a different vintage.
Assuming he has a '99-2000 Si, he will do 7.1 0-60, have a curb weight of 2612lbs, and have 160hp.
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The 2.2L VTEC is a 190-200 horsepower motor, depending on the year. It was not available in the Civic, but rather the Prelude. That doesn't mean people haven't put the motor in Civics. I know of several Civics that have the H22A (2.2L VTEC) motor in them. The Civic ('96-'00) weighs roughly 2600 pounds. Unless you have a 944 Turbo, you're done. The H22A (2.2L VTEC) is easily modified and there are ton of parts for it.
-Kierf.
--'79 Prelude.
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-Kierf.
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Originally posted by John Kuhn:
<STRONG>The ONLY Honda getting by my 944 on a back road is the S2000 or the NSX!</STRONG>
<STRONG>The ONLY Honda getting by my 944 on a back road is the S2000 or the NSX!</STRONG>
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My stable includes:
1981 Twin Turbo 928
1983 944
1993 Audi S4
2000 Trek 1000 road bike
None of them answer to anything with a "Maxwell House" tail pipe. As for your comments about the type R Integra.....well please substantiate these claims with track times and/or performance specs. I highly doubt a 996 would roll over and let an Integra by...let's see we are talking an additional 100+ HP, and a boatload more torque in the Porsche. Not to even begin to mention torque steer of the front wheel drive Honda! On the track, the rear driver Porsche would kill the type R. Don't get me wrong, the Honda/Acura is a good car, but it just doesn't have the torque you need......like when you come out of a corner onto a straight. Why does it feel like I am pressing the pedal on a sewing machine every time I drive a 4 cyl. Honda?......because they lack torque, especially at low RPMs. As for the motorcycle statement, well that may be true, but remember a bike has little to no advantage in a corner over a car......my statement was not directed at motorcycles, sorry if I confused you.
I guess I am just tired of all these Asian cars with one windshield wiper, blue headlights, cheap wheels and an exhuast pipe bigger around than a Mack truck exhaust.
1981 Twin Turbo 928
1983 944
1993 Audi S4
2000 Trek 1000 road bike
None of them answer to anything with a "Maxwell House" tail pipe. As for your comments about the type R Integra.....well please substantiate these claims with track times and/or performance specs. I highly doubt a 996 would roll over and let an Integra by...let's see we are talking an additional 100+ HP, and a boatload more torque in the Porsche. Not to even begin to mention torque steer of the front wheel drive Honda! On the track, the rear driver Porsche would kill the type R. Don't get me wrong, the Honda/Acura is a good car, but it just doesn't have the torque you need......like when you come out of a corner onto a straight. Why does it feel like I am pressing the pedal on a sewing machine every time I drive a 4 cyl. Honda?......because they lack torque, especially at low RPMs. As for the motorcycle statement, well that may be true, but remember a bike has little to no advantage in a corner over a car......my statement was not directed at motorcycles, sorry if I confused you.
I guess I am just tired of all these Asian cars with one windshield wiper, blue headlights, cheap wheels and an exhuast pipe bigger around than a Mack truck exhaust.
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Originally posted by John Kuhn:
<STRONG>As for your comments about the type R Integra.....well please substantiate these claims with track times and/or performance specs. I highly doubt a 996 would roll over and let an Integra by...let's see we are talking an additional 100+ HP, and a boatload more torque in the Porsche. Not to even begin to mention torque steer of the front wheel drive Honda! On the track, the rear driver Porsche would kill the type R.
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I guess I am just tired of all these Asian cars with one windshield wiper, blue headlights, cheap wheels and an exhuast pipe bigger around than a Mack truck exhaust.</STRONG>
<STRONG>As for your comments about the type R Integra.....well please substantiate these claims with track times and/or performance specs. I highly doubt a 996 would roll over and let an Integra by...let's see we are talking an additional 100+ HP, and a boatload more torque in the Porsche. Not to even begin to mention torque steer of the front wheel drive Honda! On the track, the rear driver Porsche would kill the type R.
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I guess I am just tired of all these Asian cars with one windshield wiper, blue headlights, cheap wheels and an exhuast pipe bigger around than a Mack truck exhaust.</STRONG>
The ITR has no appreciable torque steer.
The ITR does not have any of the following:
- only one windshield wiper (though the 2001 Mercedes E430 does)
- blue headlights
- cheap wheels
- exhuast pipe bigger around than a Mack truck exhaust
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I wonder if their(R&T) definition of a good handling car is something with high limits (goes fast) or something that is well balanced/easy to drive fast..
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Why does it feel like I am pressing the pedal on a sewing machine every time I drive a 4 cyl. Honda?......because they lack torque, especially at low RPMs.
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The Integra Type R came last in it's price category in October 2001 Motor magazine (Australian) Bang for your Buck competition. It's not that's it's slow, or handles badly, it's just worse than all the others. The competition is based on 0-60mph, 0-400m, 60mph-0 braking, track time and 4 judges votes after driving it around a race track a few times, the better handling car usually wins because of the amount of points the judges votes are worth. Unfortunately Porsche didn't have an entry this year, but last time I saw this competition the 996 won it's open price category comfortably.
So if the Integra comes last in a low price category how could it outhandle a 996?
Sam.
So if the Integra comes last in a low price category how could it outhandle a 996?
Sam.