Why do people track these cars?
#31
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Fixed it for you.
There will always be people who have a soft spot in their hearts for the 944, but I doubt it will be "highly collectable" in our lifetime. It will always be a "lesser Porsche" in the eyes of the public because of: the original cost compared to it's 911 brethren; the quantities made, compared to the 911s; and the iconic status of the 911.
There will always be people who have a soft spot in their hearts for the 944, but I doubt it will be "highly collectable" in our lifetime. It will always be a "lesser Porsche" in the eyes of the public because of: the original cost compared to it's 911 brethren; the quantities made, compared to the 911s; and the iconic status of the 911.
#32
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Van,
not only are you lowballing it....
i think the entire collectable car market is facing implosion if the current generation of young americans
doesn't start showing some signs of life beyond the playroom/cartoon-network/videogameland.
cars from before the 1960s are already in jeopardy.
a couple of possible recent collectable cars ?
H2 [serious].
Neon srt [kidding].
not only are you lowballing it....
i think the entire collectable car market is facing implosion if the current generation of young americans
doesn't start showing some signs of life beyond the playroom/cartoon-network/videogameland.
cars from before the 1960s are already in jeopardy.
a couple of possible recent collectable cars ?
H2 [serious].
Neon srt [kidding].
Last edited by odurandina; 12-15-2012 at 11:23 PM.
#33
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In the US a 944 n/a is stupidly cheap to track. You can buy them for $1000. Drop $5k at them and have a great little car to run against similarly spec'd vehicles. You can buy someone else's well sorted 951 for $15k-$25k and have a very fast race car. The turbo will cost you more in upkeep but compared to the rest of the world, you guys have it really good. Elsewhere you can spend well over $100k on a turbo (or in Dubai's case, Superchaged) racecar and not have many avenues or series in which to compete. Hey at least if you want to sell that car you will get back say, $30k if you're lucky.
#34
i disagree. the Hemi's sure were... and the '60s Vettes and Camaro's not far behind. we had guys doing $60,000 plus restorations of Hemi Chargers, Road Runners and Cudas going on just at the shop down the street in 1990~4 with a collector right in town. not before long, them damn cars...
http://www.9magazine.com/ameila-isla...-the-show.html
There are always fine examples as exceptions.
I had a 1967 RS/SS Camaro I sold in 1991 and stretched to get $10k out of it!!! Nobody considered it collectible at the time.
#35
Three Wheelin'
Many times people think they can buy an older car, find a cheap example, and take it to the track and expect no issues. If maintained and taken care of, then issues will be minimal.
#36
I bought my '86 951 because I still remembered the red one from the poster I had in my dorm room in college... Damn sexy car. I had a 944 NA ten years ago that was almost what I wanted. When I found the current car for a great price, invested time and effort to get to where it is now (still a ways to go), then finally started driving it six months later- I realized that the wait was worth it. The ONLY project car my wife has ever approved of. It is my Sunday driver, and will see a DE or two in the future.
The amount of time and money I put into Mustangs, a Mark viii and a Merkur on my long road to where I am now... At least the wife knew enough to just pay retail for her former Cayman S and current M Series. Not sure what I would do without the mistress in my garage. Did I mention that 26 years later she still looks sexy?
The amount of time and money I put into Mustangs, a Mark viii and a Merkur on my long road to where I am now... At least the wife knew enough to just pay retail for her former Cayman S and current M Series. Not sure what I would do without the mistress in my garage. Did I mention that 26 years later she still looks sexy?
#37
I tracked a 951 for about 8 years before I had a #2 failure. Rebuilt the motor and had a another #2 go after about 40 hours. That one could have been a problem with the rebuild. Anyway, I'm about to change the bearings out this winter after about 50 hours track time. I now look at rod bearings as a regular maintenance item. Not hard to do and cheaper than replacing the motor. If they still look good, I might increase the time interval.
#38
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alot of street cars suffer from lack of maintenance from owners who just dont know better. Most racers take meticulous care of their cars and therefore do not have common issues, but rather other issues like running out of road or running out of talent.
#40
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I tracked a 951 for about 8 years before I had a #2 failure. Rebuilt the motor and had a another #2 go after about 40 hours. That one could have been a problem with the rebuild. Anyway, I'm about to change the bearings out this winter after about 50 hours track time. I now look at rod bearings as a regular maintenance item. Not hard to do and cheaper than replacing the motor. If they still look good, I might increase the time interval.
I've heard good things about the mod.
#41
In the US a 944 n/a is stupidly cheap to track. You can buy them for $1000. Drop $5k at them and have a great little car to run against similarly spec'd vehicles. You can buy someone else's well sorted 951 for $15k-$25k and have a very fast race car. The turbo will cost you more in upkeep but compared to the rest of the world, you guys have it really good. Elsewhere you can spend well over $100k on a turbo (or in Dubai's case, Superchaged) racecar and not have many avenues or series in which to compete. Hey at least if you want to sell that car you will get back say, $30k if you're lucky.
I just can't justify that kinda of money when a E36 320i can be had for less/ same
#42
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#45
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I tracked a 951 for about 8 years before I had a #2 failure. Rebuilt the motor and had a another #2 go after about 40 hours. That one could have been a problem with the rebuild. Anyway, I'm about to change the bearings out this winter after about 50 hours track time. I now look at rod bearings as a regular maintenance item. Not hard to do and cheaper than replacing the motor. If they still look good, I might increase the time interval.