Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

loose flywheel, destroyed T-tube shaft

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-15-2012, 11:31 PM
  #1  
Cone_eater
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cone_eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 417, MO
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unhappy loose flywheel, destroyed T-tube shaft

So my flywheel must have came loose, destroyed the pilot bearing and took out the shaft in the torque tube. With that being said, I can't get the clutch disk off do to the splines being shredded. Any ideas?
Old 09-16-2012, 12:09 AM
  #2  
V2Rocket
Rainman
Rennlist Member
 
V2Rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 45,548
Received 648 Likes on 502 Posts
Default

if the shaft is truly wasted...got a plasma torch?
Old 09-16-2012, 12:12 AM
  #3  
Cone_eater
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cone_eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 417, MO
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Its pretty bad. Not salvageable. Don't have a plasma torch. I do have a saws-all but I don't know if that will cut it.
Old 09-16-2012, 12:33 AM
  #4  
kens_74911s
Racer
 
kens_74911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hey have 3 Torque Tubes. if you need just the shaft or complete TT LMK . I have a good silent one from a 84 if you don't want to deal with swapping the bearings. It does not have the welded on accident tube shift lugs. but do have the bolt on version attached.
Old 09-16-2012, 12:36 AM
  #5  
Cone_eater
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cone_eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 417, MO
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bolt on version attached?? I don't know what you mean.
Old 09-16-2012, 12:49 AM
  #6  
kens_74911s
Racer
 
kens_74911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default cut

Originally Posted by Cone_eater
Its pretty bad. Not salvageable. Don't have a plasma torch.
I do have a saws-all but I don't know if that will cut it.
An abrasive cut off wheel will cut all steels hardened or not . None of it is hardened except for maybe surface hardening of the the pilot bearing shaft end then its not so hard it cant be sawed with a bimetal blade. Are you sure you need to CUT VS Pull / pound ? Tell us more. Whats frozen the splines or the pilot bearing ? Think about a root cause or why this happened ...
Old 09-16-2012, 12:58 AM
  #7  
Cone_eater
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cone_eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 417, MO
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Flywheel wasn't tight enough. Got loose causing the pilot bearing to cut the splines. They are mushroomed and I tried filing them to slide the clutch off but no success. Only pic I have at the moment.
Old 09-16-2012, 01:03 AM
  #8  
kens_74911s
Racer
 
kens_74911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default tt

Originally Posted by Cone_eater
Its pretty bad. Not salvageable. Don't have a plasma torch. I do have a saws-all but I don't know if that will cut it.
Originally Posted by Cone_eater
Bolt on version attached?? I don't know what you mean.
Torque tubes prior to 85 ( don't quote me on exact dates ) had 2 U bolts holding a lug bracket to prevent torque tube and engine I guess from shifting to far back maybe into fuel tank in case if ft end collision. In 85. 5 the U bolts were replaced with welded lugs on the torque tube that grab on cross member in rear if you get messed up... They both have same intent just refined in 85.5. Early /bolt on VS welded /later accident Lug(s) . I have pictures I can post its getting late so will be signing out for tonight you can PM me .
Ken

Last edited by kens_74911s; 09-16-2012 at 01:25 AM.
Old 09-16-2012, 01:06 AM
  #9  
VirginiaF1
Racer
 
VirginiaF1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

SO SORRY MAN...
Was the loose flywheel noticeable/preventable?
Any knowledge for us new hires?
Old 09-16-2012, 01:09 AM
  #10  
Cone_eater
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cone_eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 417, MO
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Preventable, hell yes. Lesson is don't get rushed. Noticeable... when it bust off the nose cone of a starter, you start doing some investigation. Lol
Old 09-16-2012, 01:19 AM
  #11  
kens_74911s
Racer
 
kens_74911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default disk

Just cut the disk free I think you can salvege it Or use some heat on the remainng disk and pound it off the spl;ine . If you didn't twist or bend the spline if you get the disk off you can probably clean it up.


Ug, just read your last post you may me out of luck.... well your Saw Zaw will cut the shaft anyway with a bimetal blade sorry to need to point you there... .
Old 09-16-2012, 01:28 AM
  #12  
kens_74911s
Racer
 
kens_74911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default image

Looks llike a parts car.
Old 09-16-2012, 01:31 AM
  #13  
kens_74911s
Racer
 
kens_74911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default image

Seems this didn't just happen... right ?
No engine wiring harness, brake lines etc.
Old 09-16-2012, 01:39 AM
  #14  
Cone_eater
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cone_eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 417, MO
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It happened 2 or 3 years ago completely my fault, and I blew the motor at the same time. So I finally pulled it into the garage to redo the whole thing with an sbc.
Old 09-16-2012, 11:55 AM
  #15  
VirginiaF1
Racer
 
VirginiaF1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Cone_eater
Preventable, hell yes. Lesson is don't get rushed. Noticeable... when it bust off the nose cone of a starter, you start doing some investigation. Lol
LOL!
spilled my hot coffee, have your lawyer call me.
Cheers


Quick Reply: loose flywheel, destroyed T-tube shaft



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:52 AM.