"Outlaw" 944s....where are they?
07-30-2017, 12:31 AM
#287
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Last edited by 333pg333; 08-01-2017 at 06:45 PM.
07-31-2017, 12:39 AM
#289
What is the button on the right rear quarter? Or is that just a plug for an antenna installed many, many days ago.
The duct coming in from the left side window, is it for the transmission? There seems to be some sort of gray passage on top of it, opposite the fuel filler neck. What is this gray passage?
Do you still run the 993 TT brakes (as Speedhunters wrote years ago)? Seems those wouldn't be up to the task!
08-01-2017, 04:15 AM
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Last edited by 333pg333; 08-01-2017 at 06:44 PM.
08-01-2017, 01:33 PM
#291
Drifting
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My last car was a very well-built 356 "Outlaw," and it was my daily driver. It was beautiful, but it made for a very bad DD, so I got a 944 S2 with the idea of apply Outlaw aesthetics to it.
Reading through this thread, people seem to be obsessed with weight and speed, and while upgraded performance is definitely in the Outlaw design portfolio, it isn't the primary goal. Stance and appearance are very important, with subtle, custom changes to the body and interior (not just interior weight-savings) being a big part of it. While a lot the "Outlaw" and Gruppe look was inspired by race mods, they aren't suppose to be race cars.
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Reading through this thread, people seem to be obsessed with weight and speed, and while upgraded performance is definitely in the Outlaw design portfolio, it isn't the primary goal. Stance and appearance are very important, with subtle, custom changes to the body and interior (not just interior weight-savings) being a big part of it. While a lot the "Outlaw" and Gruppe look was inspired by race mods, they aren't suppose to be race cars.
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Most of the super cool 356/911 Outlaws have cool retro style sport seats if anything. Which is to the point above about quality and style over just shear "performance"
08-01-2017, 06:43 PM
#292
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Fair point and taken. While I find the whole form without function idea of Stance etc pretty flimsy, I'd rather have a car improved upon to do what it was designed to do. Go fast, sometimes on the track. For that, once you get past a certain speed, a cage is a necessity.
But pics removed. No hard feelings. :-)
But pics removed. No hard feelings. :-)
08-01-2017, 07:13 PM
#293
Drifting
Thread Starter
The pictures of the black car shouldn't be removed by any means. It has many great "outlaw" elements to it and is a beautiful example.
I just keep seeing post after post that have the same basic list of mods nearly everyone does and all of the sudden they want to consider it an "Outlaw"
To me part of the Outlaw appeal is the quality. Taking those mods a to the whole next level. Not just tossing "Bolt Ons" at a car and calling it an outlaw.
To me there needs to be some very specific intent and fabrication/Paint/Upholstery done to make a car stand above its peers.
I just keep seeing post after post that have the same basic list of mods nearly everyone does and all of the sudden they want to consider it an "Outlaw"
To me part of the Outlaw appeal is the quality. Taking those mods a to the whole next level. Not just tossing "Bolt Ons" at a car and calling it an outlaw.
To me there needs to be some very specific intent and fabrication/Paint/Upholstery done to make a car stand above its peers.
08-01-2017, 10:15 PM
#294
The pictures of the black car shouldn't be removed by any means. It has many great "outlaw" elements to it and is a beautiful example.
I just keep seeing post after post that have the same basic list of mods nearly everyone does and all of the sudden they want to consider it an "Outlaw"
To me part of the Outlaw appeal is the quality. Taking those mods a to the whole next level. Not just tossing "Bolt Ons" at a car and calling it an outlaw.
To me there needs to be some very specific intent and fabrication/Paint/Upholstery done to make a car stand above its peers.
I just keep seeing post after post that have the same basic list of mods nearly everyone does and all of the sudden they want to consider it an "Outlaw"
To me part of the Outlaw appeal is the quality. Taking those mods a to the whole next level. Not just tossing "Bolt Ons" at a car and calling it an outlaw.
To me there needs to be some very specific intent and fabrication/Paint/Upholstery done to make a car stand above its peers.
To me, what Rod builds is what an Outlaw is - the intersection of technology and design.
08-02-2017, 02:33 PM
#296
Drifting
Thread Starter
Check out Rod Emory at Emory Motorsports. He and his dad literally invented the Outlaw Porsche - they coined the term, and have been building Outlaws for forty years. Rod's cars are astonishing ; he recently built a 356C with 996 C4 running gear - yup, a four-wheel drive 356. Like Singer, he changes everything about the car, from using late 911 IRS and 4 cylinder 911 motors (two cylinders chopped off), to gently messaging wheel wells and removing drip rails. Hes been on Jay Leno's garage a few times. His cars - like Singer's - cost hundreds of thousands.
To me, what Rod builds is what an Outlaw is - the intersection of technology and design.
To me, what Rod builds is what an Outlaw is - the intersection of technology and design.
Yep. I watched a cool episode with him on Jay Leno's garage. Cool stuff!!
Sooooooo tempting now.......
