Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

front spring rate to get for a street car?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-18-2011, 01:27 PM
  #1  
jss
Pro
Thread Starter
 
jss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default front spring rate to get for a street car?

I was going to order a set of
koni front shocks with paragon coil over set up. I was told 200 is good for street . been doing alot fo reading on here and many say go 250.300 etc

so now I cant deside what to go with.
its a 87 951. stock rear end. will prob do just shocks down the road and very down the road rear coilovers.
its a street car.
Old 04-18-2011, 01:59 PM
  #2  
krystar
Drifting
 
krystar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 3,240
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

really it's all up to you. if it's daily driving, would prob go no more than 200. if it's just weekender, maybe 250.. 300 is mighty stiff. if yer not gonna autox/track the car, no need to get something that stiff
Old 04-18-2011, 02:04 PM
  #3  
jss
Pro
Thread Starter
 
jss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

not DD. I was thinking 225 and just call it a day.
Old 04-18-2011, 02:11 PM
  #4  
JohnKoaWood
Nordschleife Master
 
JohnKoaWood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fly Away
Posts: 7,759
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

FWIW, I had 300 fronts and solid bushings, Koni coil over set full stiff on my 951 stock rear with Koni sport shocks full stiff... loved it so much I transfered it to my 944 when I installed the Bilsteins on my 951.. only change I made was to soften the stiffness to half.

I have purchased a set of 225s, but have not yet installed them as I am happy with the 300s... neutral handling, even on the 944...
Old 04-18-2011, 02:46 PM
  #5  
thirdgenbird
Drifting
 
thirdgenbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,368
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

350# on a 924 with weight reduction is too much. Ask me how I know.

I think 200-250 would be reasonable.
Old 04-18-2011, 03:20 PM
  #6  
schwank
Herr Unmöglich
Rennlist Member
 
schwank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Portland
Posts: 5,402
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

250 is the max you want with stock rear torsion bars.
Old 04-18-2011, 03:32 PM
  #7  
ernie9468
Drifting
 
ernie9468's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Caraquet-- New-Brunswick-- Canada
Posts: 2,728
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Talking

For a DD go with stock height 220 lb.
Old 04-18-2011, 03:37 PM
  #8  
jss
Pro
Thread Starter
 
jss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i am going to lower the front to match the rear
Old 04-18-2011, 03:37 PM
  #9  
jss
Pro
Thread Starter
 
jss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ps thats by ordering their coilover kit to fit onto the koni inserts
Old 04-18-2011, 04:10 PM
  #10  
RDL
Pro
 
RDL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 648
Received 38 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

jss,
I installed the kit I belive you are looking at on my 944s2. I went with the 200lb springs due primarily to the fact that I have stock torsion bars in the rear. I have found this to be an excellent setup for street driving and occasional track use. I think with the Koni adjustable struts and stock springs the car was over dampened and under sprung. The 200lb springs have brought this into balance and the car is much more comfortable on the street.
Good Luck
Old 04-18-2011, 04:17 PM
  #11  
jss
Pro
Thread Starter
 
jss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thanks alot for that
Old 04-18-2011, 05:48 PM
  #12  
hevquip
Racer
 
hevquip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denver Area
Posts: 313
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I am confused...the spring weights everyone mentioned are exceptionally low numbers compared to something I have written down for my car "Spring rates: 1800 front, 1500 rear"

Where did my numbers come from? Those numbers are supposed to be the weight balance/bias of the car and the spring rates were chosen off those numbers, right? My car has pretty much only been tracked and is set up for it as well, but gets driven on the street (and no, it is not a very smooth ride).
Old 04-18-2011, 06:04 PM
  #13  
krystar
Drifting
 
krystar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 3,240
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

....our units are inches/lb. what units are u in? maybe kg/mm?
Old 04-18-2011, 06:33 PM
  #14  
hevquip
Racer
 
hevquip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denver Area
Posts: 313
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by krystar
....our units are inches/lb. what units are u in? maybe kg/mm?
Haha, I really don't know. I would assume it's standard American measurements, I know it was written down by someone who wouldn't have used other measurements, and I'm sure all the components are all American made or sourced. I have to look through my binder of paperwork again. On a sheet of paper with some other info on it, it just says "Spring rates - front 1800 rear 1500". And I don't know why, but for some reason those numbers make sense to me in regards to some aspect of a suspension setups, but I don't know what, maybe dampening or something...
Old 04-18-2011, 06:33 PM
  #15  
pettybird
Burning Brakes
 
pettybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: cleveland ohio
Posts: 1,229
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

they're in Newtons.


Quick Reply: front spring rate to get for a street car?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:15 AM.