removing this pulley with engine in the car?
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hey guys
back to working on the car, got the waterpump out w/o removing the rear timing cover, but installing everything back together is going to be a real pain, so I think it might be a good idea to remove the cover?
but it looks like that giant pulley on the bottom is going to have to be removed, it needs a 24" socket - so you know which one I mean
do I need to mark anything, or just take it off? cylinder head is already off the car
also, was I supposed to do any markings on the balance shaft pulleys/sprockets/w/e?
back to working on the car, got the waterpump out w/o removing the rear timing cover, but installing everything back together is going to be a real pain, so I think it might be a good idea to remove the cover?
but it looks like that giant pulley on the bottom is going to have to be removed, it needs a 24" socket - so you know which one I mean
do I need to mark anything, or just take it off? cylinder head is already off the car
also, was I supposed to do any markings on the balance shaft pulleys/sprockets/w/e?
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flywheel lock on back. Crank the 24 mm lose and pull the gears off. You may need a gear puller to get the lower gears off. They can stick. However can be done in the car. You probably want to pull the fans for more clearnace. The radiator can stay, but if you pull that youll have plenty of space.
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i just did it yesterday on jimbo's.
set TDC, remove starter, install flywheel lock, 24mm socket + breaker bar+4ft jack handle extension, undo it.
if u wanna pull fans off, u can. i didn't. u can use a big long screwedriver or pry bar on the BS pulleys. but gear puller makes it easy. don't lose the halfmoon keys on the shafts.
just remember to redo the timing correctly when u put everything back together
set TDC, remove starter, install flywheel lock, 24mm socket + breaker bar+4ft jack handle extension, undo it.
if u wanna pull fans off, u can. i didn't. u can use a big long screwedriver or pry bar on the BS pulleys. but gear puller makes it easy. don't lose the halfmoon keys on the shafts.
just remember to redo the timing correctly when u put everything back together
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I managed to go without the pin-spanner wrench by using that jawed oil wrench you (Yuliang) suggested - worked great! Thanks!
I still don't have a flywheel lock though, I'm going to order one right now.
Those balance shaft things, when I put everything together - as long as the marks line up - everything is going to be fine right?
What's this giant pulley I want to remove is for? From one of the pics, crank pulley? is there anything I have to do here? mark it with a marker or something?
on my balance shaft sprockets, those metal "spacer" looking things look a little beat up, not sure how/when since we didn't really touch them until we started removing them
Thanks guys!
Also, I managed to get the waterpump w/o taking off the cover, but putting it back on is going to be a REAL b***h, so we think that it might be a good idea to take the cover off.
Do fans really take up that much room? Because it looks like it will be very tight in there with a gear puller
Thanks a lot (again!)
I'm having so much fun finding things that were ziptied or have 2-3 clamps within 2-3" ... LOL
I still don't have a flywheel lock though, I'm going to order one right now.
Those balance shaft things, when I put everything together - as long as the marks line up - everything is going to be fine right?
What's this giant pulley I want to remove is for? From one of the pics, crank pulley? is there anything I have to do here? mark it with a marker or something?
on my balance shaft sprockets, those metal "spacer" looking things look a little beat up, not sure how/when since we didn't really touch them until we started removing them
Thanks guys!
Also, I managed to get the waterpump w/o taking off the cover, but putting it back on is going to be a REAL b***h, so we think that it might be a good idea to take the cover off.
Do fans really take up that much room? Because it looks like it will be very tight in there with a gear puller
Thanks a lot (again!)
I'm having so much fun finding things that were ziptied or have 2-3 clamps within 2-3" ... LOL
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Did you watch my timing belt / water pump videos? (I know - I still have to put together the video of re-assembly.)
That "pulley" actually has the power steering drive, the alternator/AC drive, and the balance shaft drive sprocket.
A flywheel lock is quite handy, but if you have a friend, you can get him to hold the flywheel in place with a large screwdriver or prybar levered into the flywheel teeth...
That "pulley" actually has the power steering drive, the alternator/AC drive, and the balance shaft drive sprocket.
A flywheel lock is quite handy, but if you have a friend, you can get him to hold the flywheel in place with a large screwdriver or prybar levered into the flywheel teeth...
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My mechanic had to pull my rad out and use a serious puller on my pulley. It was badly seized on because the belts were ten years old. You'll certainly have more room if you at least pull the fans out.
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point taken
I just tried Pelican and it appears they are out of flywheel locks and its somewhat late to get one shipped today
so I'll call Paragon and who-else-might-have it for one
I should have bought one a while ago anyways
that power steering thing is something else; I'm beginning to wonder if my car is a manual rack car, or a power-steering car where P/O simply removed the power steering pump, any way to check?
edit: just called Paragon and they had 3 flywheel locks in stock, so I got one on the way! w00t
I just tried Pelican and it appears they are out of flywheel locks and its somewhat late to get one shipped today
so I'll call Paragon and who-else-might-have it for one
I should have bought one a while ago anyways
that power steering thing is something else; I'm beginning to wonder if my car is a manual rack car, or a power-steering car where P/O simply removed the power steering pump, any way to check?
edit: just called Paragon and they had 3 flywheel locks in stock, so I got one on the way! w00t
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see, we will go outside, find something that we don't have a tool (yet) for - run out to Lowe's - which is 1 mile away - and come right back
AH!
no one around here had anything close to a pin spanner wrench, I was REALLY surprised; my uncle had a kick *** set with all kinds of different pieces that "snap" onto a bar thats as long as a breaker bar (figure about 3 ft or so) - great tool set
not too bad though, so far so good
I'm looking at some of these bolts - some of them look great, some not so much, some come out without much effort, others need some extra OOOMPH to break them loose
but so far so good, have not broken anything yet - no bolts/nuts or anything, so not bad
I'm just surprised to find some parts that I would have done differently - though the "cheap" fix definitely works
like I got this 1 coolant hose with 3 clamps on it, it was cut in the middle and they put a piece of tubing in it, and then clamped it again ...
AH!
no one around here had anything close to a pin spanner wrench, I was REALLY surprised; my uncle had a kick *** set with all kinds of different pieces that "snap" onto a bar thats as long as a breaker bar (figure about 3 ft or so) - great tool set
not too bad though, so far so good
I'm looking at some of these bolts - some of them look great, some not so much, some come out without much effort, others need some extra OOOMPH to break them loose
but so far so good, have not broken anything yet - no bolts/nuts or anything, so not bad
I'm just surprised to find some parts that I would have done differently - though the "cheap" fix definitely works
like I got this 1 coolant hose with 3 clamps on it, it was cut in the middle and they put a piece of tubing in it, and then clamped it again ...
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The flywheel lock balance shaft wrench are the only 944 specific tools I have. I consider them essentials to doing the job right. I do the belt tightening by feel.
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possible to take the reservoir and pump off of a car with a power rack. but unless they replace the rack...it'll still have all the fittings for power.
power rack
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vs
manual rack
power rack
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manual rack
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whew, def a manual rack car!
I'd like to do my belt tension, that twist method sounds like something I could follow, I think
not that far into the job yet, lol
waiting for the word on my cylinder head
I'd like to do my belt tension, that twist method sounds like something I could follow, I think
not that far into the job yet, lol
waiting for the word on my cylinder head