I need more power!
#16
Rennlist Member
I agree with Joe. A healthy, well spec'ed turbo motor should be dead reliable.
I'm sure an LS1 would be reliable too - but before going that route, get some answers on weight and car balance. My intuition is that an LS1 motor weighs more than a 951 motor... Plus it'll require more custom parts.
I'm sure an LS1 would be reliable too - but before going that route, get some answers on weight and car balance. My intuition is that an LS1 motor weighs more than a 951 motor... Plus it'll require more custom parts.
#17
Race Director
This is an issue and is why I went with a 968 engine and not an LS1 a few years ago. In the meantime, the suspension has been updated, I'm running solid suspension all around, late offset spindles and hubs in front allowing for 968 brakes all around (got some big blacks sitting in a box for the next upgrade), bigger wheels/tires (9x17/275's all around), and an S2 gearbox. Still, my vet friends are trying to convince me to sell Franky and all my spares and buy a well sorted C5
At 230 whp the 968 motor is a good choice. However 968 motors work best when stock or near stock. They suffer when you want more power since it just is not easy to get. 944 Turbo's shine at modest power bumps. Done right the power is easy, inexpensive per hp and reliable. Most turbos get a bad wrap from trying push it to 350-400 whp by just cranking up the boost. These will have issues.
#18
Burning Brakes
How about the Audi 5cyl? That would be fun to beat up on the vettes with. That motor has all forged internals and a cast iron block stock, and I have seen with my own eyes a 600hp motor...300 would be a walk in the park for it.
Same bellhousing as 924T with cheaper clutch options, shorter in length that the porsche 4 cyl bringing the weight more to the center of the car. Sounds sick on boost.
Same bellhousing as 924T with cheaper clutch options, shorter in length that the porsche 4 cyl bringing the weight more to the center of the car. Sounds sick on boost.
#19
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I agree with Joe. A healthy, well spec'ed turbo motor should be dead reliable.
I'm sure an LS1 would be reliable too - but before going that route, get some answers on weight and car balance. My intuition is that an LS1 motor weighs more than a 951 motor... Plus it'll require more custom parts.
I'm sure an LS1 would be reliable too - but before going that route, get some answers on weight and car balance. My intuition is that an LS1 motor weighs more than a 951 motor... Plus it'll require more custom parts.
#20
Drifting
#23
Rennlist Member
So I'd say the balance is pretty good, and the handling is insane. But I have KWs on there too.
#25
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Yes, but at substantial costs.
Mine is nicely sprung on Leda's. Corners very well.
Tom's only a few miles away and he has already told me that he will guide me through the process. I'm going over there next week to see the current V8 build.
#26
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Meh - an LS1 is a substantial cost.
Besides, I'm betting the DIY'er could do ITB and cams fairly frugally.
Just do a google search for "DIY ITB", and get all kinds of threads of guys building their own ITB setup from a hacked stock manifold and motorcycle throttlebodies on the cheap.
Cams can be re-ground, and there are plenty of places that should be willing to do that. Try contacting these guys:
Colt Cams
Their "Tri-Flow" grinds look especially interesting. I received a quote from them in the past, for a set of cams (16v DOHC 4cylinder) for $500. And that price included the R&D since they have not done the cams before. I bet a small group buy could significantly lower the price as well...
-Rogue
Besides, I'm betting the DIY'er could do ITB and cams fairly frugally.
Just do a google search for "DIY ITB", and get all kinds of threads of guys building their own ITB setup from a hacked stock manifold and motorcycle throttlebodies on the cheap.
Cams can be re-ground, and there are plenty of places that should be willing to do that. Try contacting these guys:
Colt Cams
Their "Tri-Flow" grinds look especially interesting. I received a quote from them in the past, for a set of cams (16v DOHC 4cylinder) for $500. And that price included the R&D since they have not done the cams before. I bet a small group buy could significantly lower the price as well...
-Rogue
#27
Rennlist Member
Start with the most capable chassis and fit the largest most powerful engine you can.
#28
RL Community Team
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2.5 turbo - cheapest and easiest way to get more power, especially if you sell a 968 engine to recoup some money. This is what I want to do too. I haven't had a FI car either, except a very slow turbodiesel.
#30
Here is another option
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...velopment.html
except I would intercool it, even at low boost
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...velopment.html
except I would intercool it, even at low boost