5.0 swap?
#16
Race Car
This topic actually sounds interesting. If the Ford 5.0 block actually is a narrower block, why have people not used it in a swap already?
It sucks that this thread is turning into a pissing match, I was just starting to think some real information might start showing up here.
It sucks that this thread is turning into a pissing match, I was just starting to think some real information might start showing up here.
#17
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power output is down on the 5.0 compared to an LS engine, especially since the LS have come down so much in price.
also the 5.0 is an iron block which is generally shyed away from with these swaps
also the 5.0 is an iron block which is generally shyed away from with these swaps
#18
5.0 CAD
If anyone has a CAD drawing of the 5.0 Bellhousing and it's crank's location in relation to the BH dowel pins, I can design the adapter plate. I did this for The C5 bellhousing. I was also about to do this for the VQ35 Nissan motor using a Pathfinder Bellhousing before I ran into the cheap 5.3l LM7 motor.
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If I had a 5.0 drivetrain sitting around, I might look for an old Miata and re-engine that. It's a well known conversion (Monster Miata). The fact that LS conversions in 944s are common makes it the no brainer. Why be the first (or second) to shoehorn a 5.0 in?
PS: I'm pretty sure the stock 2.5 liter 4 cylinder in the 944 is a 0 degree angle between cylinders. ;-)
PS: I'm pretty sure the stock 2.5 liter 4 cylinder in the 944 is a 0 degree angle between cylinders. ;-)
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If anyone has a CAD drawing of the 5.0 Bellhousing and it's crank's location in relation to the BH dowel pins, I can design the adapter plate. I did this for The C5 bellhousing. I was also about to do this for the VQ35 Nissan motor using a Pathfinder Bellhousing before I ran into the cheap 5.3l LM7 motor.
#23
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The 5.0 bare block may be a little narrower, but with EFI or carb it's taller, and longer too. If you didn't mind a hood scoop, it wouldn't be that bad and would probably be easier on the transaxle. There are a lot of them in Volvos...
#24
Race Car
FWIW, the "standard" angle on V-8's is 90 degrees, V-6's is 60, and V-12's is 60. V-10's would be something like 72, but most are derived from V-8's, therefore share the 90 degree angle. Volvo makes a 60 degree V8 that is derived from the Ford 3.0L Duratech. The second gen Taurus SHO had a Yamaha built V8 that may have been a 60 degree, as well, I just don't recall. 90 degree V-6's are almost always older ones that are derived from V-8's, such as the Ford 3.8L, derieved from the 5.0L V8.
Firing order dictates all of this.
Personally, if I were doing a V-8 swap, I'd try to find a way to make a 32 valve fit. But that's just me.
Firing order dictates all of this.
Personally, if I were doing a V-8 swap, I'd try to find a way to make a 32 valve fit. But that's just me.
#25
You'll need a modified bellhousing, of course, and you can use a 69 dodge charger clutch disk and should be able to fit an 02 corvette slave cylinder to press against the ford pressure plate. You'll need a hydroboost in place of the porsche brake booster to make room for the engine's width. You can do it!
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Rainman
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FWIW, the "standard" angle on V-8's is 90 degrees, V-6's is 60, and V-12's is 60. V-10's would be something like 72, but most are derived from V-8's, therefore share the 90 degree angle. Volvo makes a 60 degree V8 that is derived from the Ford 3.0L Duratech. The second gen Taurus SHO had a Yamaha built V8 that may have been a 60 degree, as well, I just don't recall. 90 degree V-6's are almost always older ones that are derived from V-8's, such as the Ford 3.8L, derieved from the 5.0L V8.
Firing order dictates all of this.
Personally, if I were doing a V-8 swap, I'd try to find a way to make a 32 valve fit. But that's just me.
Firing order dictates all of this.
Personally, if I were doing a V-8 swap, I'd try to find a way to make a 32 valve fit. But that's just me.
thats the V8 id put in my 44.