Curious about V8 conversion
07-02-2009, 12:08 AM
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There's no need to downshift to pass cars, which is nice.
Plus flooring it in any gear makes my wife scream. Not that I enjoy that sort of thing... It's always an accident, honey...
07-02-2009, 12:34 AM
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^^^LOL!!!!
lets just say that i'm 19 and i'm almost done with the 1st stage of mine...that is getting the engine in and running, getting the guages hooked up, getting wiring mostly sorted out...getting the thing on the road for some light break in time.
stage two is going to be upgrading everything else that isn't up to snuff any more...most likely rebuilding/replacing the transmission, upgrading brakes, probably going with wider wheels and tires. all of that fun stuff
Ethan
lets just say that i'm 19 and i'm almost done with the 1st stage of mine...that is getting the engine in and running, getting the guages hooked up, getting wiring mostly sorted out...getting the thing on the road for some light break in time.
stage two is going to be upgrading everything else that isn't up to snuff any more...most likely rebuilding/replacing the transmission, upgrading brakes, probably going with wider wheels and tires. all of that fun stuff
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07-02-2009, 02:26 PM
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12-14-2012, 08:24 AM
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sbc information?
i have an 86' 944 shell and was going to put a rebuilt 944 motor into it but after the issues i have had with my 87' 944 im thinking a different motor sounds good. everywhere i have looked for information on it all i get is stuff about the LS swaps. that would be nice but i guess i figured just a plain older SBC would be easier to install, to work on, and cheaper on the pocket book.
im just looking for some good solid clear information about the SBC swap, and availability of parts for doing it. i dont really have the availability to fabricate my own parts so any information is greatly appropriated!!!
i have heard and seen some posts of guys using truck motors for doing the swap. didnt know if that was the vortec motors or what.
not trying to be a cheep a** or anything, but i have just alot of time and money into the body of the car and would really like to get it running in the next year.
im just looking for some good solid clear information about the SBC swap, and availability of parts for doing it. i dont really have the availability to fabricate my own parts so any information is greatly appropriated!!!
i have heard and seen some posts of guys using truck motors for doing the swap. didnt know if that was the vortec motors or what.
not trying to be a cheep a** or anything, but i have just alot of time and money into the body of the car and would really like to get it running in the next year.
12-14-2012, 01:56 PM
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i have an 86' 944 shell and was going to put a rebuilt 944 motor into it but after the issues i have had with my 87' 944 im thinking a different motor sounds good. everywhere i have looked for information on it all i get is stuff about the LS swaps. that would be nice but i guess i figured just a plain older SBC would be easier to install, to work on, and cheaper on the pocket book.
im just looking for some good solid clear information about the SBC swap, and availability of parts for doing it. i dont really have the availability to fabricate my own parts so any information is greatly appropriated!!!
i have heard and seen some posts of guys using truck motors for doing the swap. didnt know if that was the vortec motors or what.
not trying to be a cheep a** or anything, but i have just alot of time and money into the body of the car and would really like to get it running in the next year.
im just looking for some good solid clear information about the SBC swap, and availability of parts for doing it. i dont really have the availability to fabricate my own parts so any information is greatly appropriated!!!
i have heard and seen some posts of guys using truck motors for doing the swap. didnt know if that was the vortec motors or what.
not trying to be a cheep a** or anything, but i have just alot of time and money into the body of the car and would really like to get it running in the next year.
Look into LM7 engines. It's basically an LS series engine, however it's out of a truck or SUV. You can get a complete pull for ~$800 (engine, harness, etc.) I know a guy locally who went to a junk yard and got essentially a complete engine (minus the heads, which was fine because he had some from a previous build) for $200. he swapped it in, put his heads on, and it's running great so far. The LM7 has an irom block, so getting 1000+ HP won't be a problem
I'd worry about everything else holding up, though
12-14-2012, 10:14 PM
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Look into LM7 engines. It's basically an LS series engine, however it's out of a truck or SUV. You can get a complete pull for ~$800 (engine, harness, etc.) I know a guy locally who went to a junk yard and got essentially a complete engine (minus the heads, which was fine because he had some from a previous build) for $200. he swapped it in, put his heads on, and it's running great so far. The LM7 has an irom block, so getting 1000+ HP won't be a problem I'd worry about everything else holding up, though
I'd worry about everything else holding up, though
12-15-2012, 12:44 AM
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just a loose effort to compare;
i'm at 171 k on this engine now.... i don't wrench much [i do the tune ups, oil, brakes, tranny oil, body mods, etc]... not much more.
if i do the maintenance that's required now, to go between 171 k~220 k miles—when all is said and done, my 968 engine will have presented about $32 K in maintenance and repairs [mix of do it myself/premium/discount techs/shops for two-owner car] to go about 220 k miles and again, be ready for the next infusion of cash..... i should actually do the head gasket and the rod bearings too, so that number can go higher. it's a semi-exotic, overworked engine, just like the 944T....
you can deal with the 3.0 variocam, including accessories, timing system, cams, pads, chains, motor mounts, gaskets, oil cooler lines, pickup tubes, rod bearings, etc... or buy one, sell the motor and swap in a nice LSx the first day you buy the car..... but do the latter, and you'll come out ahead.
by 4 cylinder standards [barf], it's a nice engine. i sorta like the growling behemoth when she's running 80 mph at 3,200 rpm down the highway..... but when the cellphone rings or i put on a movie or the stereo, it's also the most effing noisy, overgrown angry lawnmower/vibradore in history.... starts with a thud, then shakes itself, accessory parts, you, and your passengers nearly to death [even came with an 800 pound exhaust in an effort to tame it]....
the original owner and myself could have spent the same $$$ enjoying a far smoother, more powerful engine requiring only a few sets of valve springs, the odd ac pump, oil changes and tune ups.... for the guys who wrench and drive just a few thousand miles a year, the 968 engine is fine—and it can take a lot of punishment... but if you drive more, like i do [94 k miles in 57 months], the 968 engine is an expensive platform.
just my 0.02
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There are a bunch of us currently working on converting our cars right now. Some of us are using the 5.3l Chevy LS-based motor, one I know is swapping in a big LS6, and others are using the older small block Chevy and LT1 motors. We're doing most of the R&D ourselves rather than going the "kit" route, for various reasons.
I actually have some of the conversion parts available for sale, if you want to go the SBC/LT1 route - bellhousing, clutch release bearing, adapter plates to attach the bellhousing to the Porsche Torque Tube. Check out our forum and the various options at http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/forum.htm.
The conversions are pretty straightfoward and retain all the stock gauges and conveniences - AC, PS, etc. All depends what you want to do. I started mine in January, and I've got a couple more months to go. Of course, I only work on it a few hours a week. Costs can vary as well, depending on the motor you choose and how good you are at scrounging for parts.
Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. This has been a great project and I've learned quite a lot.
Ross.
There are a bunch of us currently working on converting our cars right now. Some of us are using the 5.3l Chevy LS-based motor, one I know is swapping in a big LS6, and others are using the older small block Chevy and LT1 motors. We're doing most of the R&D ourselves rather than going the "kit" route, for various reasons.
I actually have some of the conversion parts available for sale, if you want to go the SBC/LT1 route - bellhousing, clutch release bearing, adapter plates to attach the bellhousing to the Porsche Torque Tube. Check out our forum and the various options at http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/forum.htm.
The conversions are pretty straightfoward and retain all the stock gauges and conveniences - AC, PS, etc. All depends what you want to do. I started mine in January, and I've got a couple more months to go. Of course, I only work on it a few hours a week. Costs can vary as well, depending on the motor you choose and how good you are at scrounging for parts.
Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. This has been a great project and I've learned quite a lot.
Ross.
I'm trying to engine swap my 1984 na 944 any chevy/gm 5.3 will do ? Thanks In advance
