supercharging a N/A
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supercharging a N/A
Hello fellow rennlist members, I haven't actually introduced me since I looked around for a long time now.
I Etienne 20 years old, and have a 84' 944 Totally rebuilt (still pending) and a 79' 928 (lot's of work) My dad has a porsche Garage and is focused on selling Transaxle porsche, I am in to racing and tuning. And I am from holland
I am looking for more Hp (just for fun) I was thinking about supercharging, I like the noise and it isn't common. I have searched around on rennlist and read the stories of blown 944 and others. What I mis in those topic's, they don't have actual dyno results, so I don't know what to expect. If I look at the turbo topic's you can guess what kind of hp the car will make looking at the mods they have done. I don't want a turbo right now because everyone has one, I want something different .
So is it possible to have around 300 - 350 Whp with a supercharger.
An what would be the best supercharger, a rootsblower like the eaton or go for a turbo style supercharger. And what would be the maximum hp out without changing the CR?
Etienne
I Etienne 20 years old, and have a 84' 944 Totally rebuilt (still pending) and a 79' 928 (lot's of work) My dad has a porsche Garage and is focused on selling Transaxle porsche, I am in to racing and tuning. And I am from holland
I am looking for more Hp (just for fun) I was thinking about supercharging, I like the noise and it isn't common. I have searched around on rennlist and read the stories of blown 944 and others. What I mis in those topic's, they don't have actual dyno results, so I don't know what to expect. If I look at the turbo topic's you can guess what kind of hp the car will make looking at the mods they have done. I don't want a turbo right now because everyone has one, I want something different .
So is it possible to have around 300 - 350 Whp with a supercharger.
An what would be the best supercharger, a rootsblower like the eaton or go for a turbo style supercharger. And what would be the maximum hp out without changing the CR?
Etienne
#2
a roots blower (eaton) or better screw-type aka lysholm (whipple/kenne belle) would provide instant power. a centrifigal supercharger wouldn't provide the same power at lower rpm's but would do just as well in higher rpm's.
#3
i am doing this right now. i have the supercharger waiting to be installed, i just need a little more money for an intercooler/methanol setup. i will update all of you when the time comes.
#4
I dug up this photos the other night. I did this back in 99-2000, This was done using a really nice supercharger. It was an Autorotor.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jlturpin...eat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/jlturpin...eat=directlink
#5
I am not a huge fan of dyno numbers for various reasons.
I like to get my numbers from the mph at the track. The supercharger I had on mine netted ~ 100mph which is ~ 240 rwhp w/o intercooler and using a water injection.
With intercooler and a little more boost (smaller pulley) it went between 104 and 105 so ~ 280 true whp.
I had it running more boost than that later, and it was definitely faster. I just never took it to the track to prove it so probably ~ 300 or so. This is all at 5800ft elevation though so there would be a little more power at good air.
IMO a twin screw is the only way to go as far as supercharging goes. If I had it to do all over again I would go that route off the bat.
I have since moved over to turbos and have ran much better mph in heavier car and made undoubtabley more power but I still love the s/c. I sometimes think about just going back to that setup.
Just make sure to build the bottom end for the ultimate power goal
I like to get my numbers from the mph at the track. The supercharger I had on mine netted ~ 100mph which is ~ 240 rwhp w/o intercooler and using a water injection.
With intercooler and a little more boost (smaller pulley) it went between 104 and 105 so ~ 280 true whp.
I had it running more boost than that later, and it was definitely faster. I just never took it to the track to prove it so probably ~ 300 or so. This is all at 5800ft elevation though so there would be a little more power at good air.
IMO a twin screw is the only way to go as far as supercharging goes. If I had it to do all over again I would go that route off the bat.
I have since moved over to turbos and have ran much better mph in heavier car and made undoubtabley more power but I still love the s/c. I sometimes think about just going back to that setup.
Just make sure to build the bottom end for the ultimate power goal
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#9
Is it that big of difference when you use E85? you can run losts more boost?
#12
i have a stock rebuilt NA engine, between 9.5-9.6:1 CR (had a good bit of the head machined off because of a pitted head gasket). using an eaton M90 off a supercoupe, around 8psi with a air/water ic and dedicated cooling system for space reasons (no room to plumb a FMIC, water lines are small) and alcohol injection with the DME on full retard/enrichment and 951 injectors.
when E85 becomes more available around here i will convert my car to run on that, in addition to pushing the boost to maybe 16psi and getting a bigger water heat exchanger. currently there are only 3 stations that sell E85 within 200 miles
when E85 becomes more available around here i will convert my car to run on that, in addition to pushing the boost to maybe 16psi and getting a bigger water heat exchanger. currently there are only 3 stations that sell E85 within 200 miles