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10% xylene in 91 pump gas = octane rating?

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Old 01-04-2009, 05:01 PM
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Default 10% xylene in 91 pump gas = octane rating?

Anyone have a formula for calculating this?

What is the octane rating of xylene?
Old 01-04-2009, 05:27 PM
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It depends on the volume used of each but for 10%.

Put 19 gallons of 91 octane and 2 gallons of Xylene (117 octane) in the tank. This will give a fuel mix of 93.5 octane.

Here is the calculation:
(19 gallons X 91 octane) + (2 gallons X 117 octane) / 21 total gallons = 93.5 octane

If you use only 1 gallon of xylene:

(20 gallons X 91 octane) + (1 gallons X 117 octane) / 21 total gallons = 92.2 octane
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where do you find such a substance? lol
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Originally Posted by 944-LT1
It depends on the volume used of each but for 10%.

Put 19 gallons of 91 octane and 2 gallons of Xylene (117 octane) in the tank. This will give a fuel mix of 93.5 octane.

Here is the calculation:
(19 gallons X 91 octane) + (2 gallons X 117 octane) / 21 total gallons = 93.5 octane

If you use only 1 gallon of xylene:

(20 gallons X 91 octane) + (1 gallons X 117 octane) / 21 total gallons = 92.2 octane
I would be willing to bet anything approaching >2% would cause a fail on emmisions in CA for elevated CO, and CO2, CA carries a Xylene content well below the federally mandated limit of 1.6% by volume, with standard limit of 1.3%, CA limit is 1% I believe (increased Xylene will increase the Octane but also the CO and CO2 output....)...Just a thought...
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Move to a state without emissions inspections anywhere other than the northeast or california
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21 gallons? Does a 944 hold that much? My 944 only takes about 14 gallons...

Don't run Xylene on smog day, but it's fine for the other 51 weeks!
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Originally Posted by FRporscheman
21 gallons? Does a 944 hold that much? My 944 only takes about 14 gallons...
Mine does. Its my understanding that the late tanks are 21 and the earlies are much smaller.
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earlies be 17 iirc
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you will need to increase your fuel pressure ...like 10% as xylene is not as effective at atomizing as gas....but if you have a turbo car you can crank the boost up big
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HEY!! I'm amazed in the difference...with approx. 2-3 gals left in the tank I added 1 gal. of xylene with 10 more gal. of 91 octane, effectively/theoretically boosting the rating to 93 octane. Though the octane rating only went up 2 points, it seemed to spool up faster and had better throttle response.
This could get habit forming...
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
where do you find such a substance? lol
Home Depot dawg
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Sherwin Williams sells its as well
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Northeast dosnt have emmisions restrictions on cars 20 years old. And new this year in MA any car without OBDII, 96 or older, only have to have a safety inspection.

Got my Xlyene at home depot to aid in the glue removal when I stripped my interior.
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I'm not so sure the math is quite that simple...mainly because it's chemistry, not math.

But...for arguments sake, lets say you ended up with 93 octane. Octane isn't a measure of energy/performance. Octane merely reduces the tendency to knock. Higher octane gasoline actually has less energy, but the knock resistance allows more timing and/or more boost. Unless you (or the engine itself) re-tuned to make use of the higher octane, there should be a slight reduction in peformance/mileage. It's likely too slight to measure outside of a lab. I don't think our engines are sophisiticated enough to run the hairy edge of detonation via computer (knock sensor) control.

This isn't to say there can't be performance gains with xylene, but it isn't the octane increase. It may well be acting as an oxydizer along the lines of N2O2.


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