RED87944S

ill get a video

Jay W

Was the harder part of the turn still there when the plugs were out? The harder part is overcoming the compression so if the plugs are out the resistance at certain points (like compressing the valve springs) should be very small, not something you have to put your back into. Hopefully you dont have a valve contacting a piston.

RED87944S

ill try that...


i think i may have bent the chain and thats why its messed up now...what i did was when taking everything off,i spun the engine by hand and i did not have the chain tensioner on and the chain was on the sprockets..and i saw the longer part of the chain switch over down...that may have messed up the chain..

Jay W

Are you saying that the chain jumped a tooth on one of the sprockets while you were turning the engine? Did you have the valves checked while you had the head off?

RED87944S

yess...what do u mean have the valves check? no i did not...theres nothing wrong with them..or at least there was not..

RED87944S

i just spun engine by hand with cam belt off and plugs out...it still is kinda hard,i still have to put about 45 torques

jstand22

take some pictures and I'll see if I can help more

I'm going to take that picture of my throttle spring right now for your other thread

Jay W

What I mean is that if the chain jumped a tooth on one of the cams, then that cam went out of time with the rest of the engine. When the motor was turned with the cam out of time by one tooth, then there is a good chance there was valve to piston contact as the engine turned. When that happens the valve can bend. There may have been no problems with the valves before this, but now it is questionable. Since you didnt have the head checked with it off you could have a bent valve, or several bent valves.

RED87944S

i am taking the cams off again..

how do i pull out a valve?

Clint's 944

Before you take out the cams, take a few detailed pictures and post them. Make sure there is a picture of the cams and a couple showing what you mean about the chain.

RED87944S

i could not find my camera to show a video..

but if i take a open end wrench on the cam and try to spin it,with the tensioner on,the chain tightens up at the top and it gets loose lower end..so one cam is moving the other one is not,then when it get really tight,it just shots the way i was going,and both of them spin..and the longer part of the chain is at the top again.and thats what it dose the whole time i crack or try to start the engine..it turns over then stops then slowly somehow turn again and just cracks slow..could it be that i stretched the chain out..dose it matter what side the chain is installed on..

now i removed the cams..and the chain..

RED87944S

i am gona see if i can find someone else that had this problem..

V2Rocket

from what you describe your valves on one cam may be touching the piston which is why the cam doesnt spin anymore.

RED87944S

i dont think u got what i said..it dose spin full 360..but it shots the same way i am going,because the chain gets really tight,and thats when the longer part of the chain transfers to the lower or upper side..i dont know how else to explain this,i dont think u guys understand me..

theiceman

go find your camera and throw it on utube .. a pic is worth a thoudsand words