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Old 09-01-2008, 03:20 AM
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HAha. Sorry. WE installed it.
Old 09-01-2008, 08:38 AM
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It sounds so great!
Old 09-01-2008, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
as long as you are willing to invest large amounts of money and time into your car you can do amazing things. we have at least one person whose 951 is making over 600HP at the wheels.
Such as?
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is there a difference between the ls1 and the lt1 or are they the same engine? Does the swap work better with a 951? What are the pros and cons? Besides not being able to race in PCA
Old 09-01-2008, 02:56 PM
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The swap is great in either car NA or Turbo. Its quite easy. The 951 is a better platform for a V8 because it already has bigger brakes and a more understanding tranny. Plus, if you have a 951, once the engine is out, it tends to bring in more recoup funds than the NA powerplant. Thats about all.

The LT1/4 engines came just before the LS series (1992-1997) and were iron blocks. The LSx engines (1997-current) are aluminum blocks with the exception of truck versions which kept the iron blocks going. There are many different variations of the LS block including LS1, LS2, LS6, and the holy grail LS7 (I want it). Theres even more than that! It gets quite confusing but from how I understand it (im a pre LS guy), GM funded the australians in their attempt to re-invent the GTO and as well a V8. The australians came up with the aluminum block V8 and GM took it from them and started the whole LS in every car thing back in 1996/7 starting with the vette. Beyond this....Google it. hahahaha cause I dont know. haha.

Im not sure about the whole PCA thing but I know a few who have ran with them in a converted car. Depends on which chapter or whos in that chapter if you now what I mean.

If it interests ya, learn more at porschehybrids.com!
Old 09-01-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 944-LT1
The swap is great in either car NA or Turbo. Its quite easy. The 951 is a better platform for a V8 because it already has bigger brakes and a more understanding tranny. Plus, if you have a 951, once the engine is out, it tends to bring in more recoup funds than the NA powerplant. Thats about all.

The LT1/4 engines came just before the LS series (1992-1997) and were iron blocks. The LSx engines (1997-current) are aluminum blocks with the exception of truck versions which kept the iron blocks going. There are many different variations of the LS block including LS1, LS2, LS6, and the holy grail LS7 (I want it). Theres even more than that! It gets quite confusing but from how I understand it (im a pre LS guy), GM funded the australians in their attempt to re-invent the GTO and as well a V8. The australians came up with the aluminum block V8 and GM took it from them and started the whole LS in every car thing back in 1996/7 starting with the vette. Beyond this....Google it. hahahaha cause I dont know. haha.

Im not sure about the whole PCA thing but I know a few who have ran with them in a converted car. Depends on which chapter or whos in that chapter if you now what I mean.

If it interests ya, learn more at porschehybrids.com!
I was told for the N/A you need to get a new radiator bigger brakes master cylinder something with the fuel lines, injectors. When you do it in the 951 i was told all you need is bigger brakes. porschehybrids.com was a little confusing for me. No one really said whether or not use a 944 or 951
Old 09-01-2008, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kburke
Such as?
bigger turbo, bigger injectors, lots and lots and lots of computer tuning (99% of the time with a new computer), bigger intercooler, ported polished flowed mani's and heads, bigger exhaust, engine displacement changes (his is a 2.55L instead of 2.5) and a hell of alot of time.
Old 09-01-2008, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 944-LT1
Theres even more than that! It gets quite confusing but from how I understand it (im a pre LS guy), GM funded the australians in their attempt to re-invent the GTO and as well a V8. The australians came up with the aluminum block V8 and GM took it from them and started the whole LS in every car thing back in 1996/7 starting with the vette. Beyond this....Google it. hahahaha cause I dont know. haha.
Nice conversion! Down here (Oz) LSX's end up in anything from Skylines, RX7's, Toyota corollas etc.

Off topic: You are a bit off with the Aussie info though.
Aussie's have never had, nor care, for GTO's. We have our own version of a muscle car which GM made more ugly then sold in the states as a GTO.
The LSX is definately not an Aussie engine either. Small block chev "altered" sligthly. We use it now rather than our own V8 that was around and updated for 30 years.
LSX's are a fantastic engine though. So much potential on tap for such little cost.

Tough car too!
Old 09-01-2008, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BENN0
Nice conversion! Down here (Oz) LSX's end up in anything from Skylines, RX7's, Toyota corollas etc.

Off topic: You are a bit off with the Aussie info though.
Aussie's have never had, nor care, for GTO's. We have our own version of a muscle car which GM made more ugly then sold in the states as a GTO.
The LSX is definately not an Aussie engine either. Small block chev "altered" sligthly. We use it now rather than our own V8 that was around and updated for 30 years.
LSX's are a fantastic engine though. So much potential on tap for such little cost.

Tough car too!
Ugly is an understatement. GM took sleek lines and destroyed them with typical pontiac boy racer libido enhancing tacky tack on parts.

I took the spoiler off my GTO, and the five holes in the trunk looked better than the spoiler!

Proof GM took a good thing and made it lousy is the fact that many GTO owners went through significant time and expense to turn their GTOs into Monaros.
Old 09-02-2008, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by alex



still one of my favorite cars on the list.

Thanks Alex! You're too nice
Old 09-02-2008, 10:20 AM
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DVC's car is the sex. I want it.
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Originally Posted by Tom R.
Proof GM took a good thing and made it lousy is the fact that many GTO owners went through significant time and expense to turn their GTOs into Monaros.
maybe is something you realize after owning one but i for one cant tell the difference except for the V logo versus the holden sign...
Old 09-02-2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 944-LT1
The LT1/4 engines came just before the LS series (1992-1997) and were iron blocks. The LSx engines (1997-current) are aluminum blocks with the exception of truck versions which kept the iron blocks going. There are many different variations of the LS block including LS1, LS2, LS6, and the holy grail LS7 (I want it). Theres even more than that!
Indeed... the LS9 is even better - pulls beautifully! Only complaint is not enough blower noise...

Drove an LS1 944 over the weekend; very nice conversion, but it felt a little soft in the engine dept (compared to a current stock base MY09 C6), I would've expected more - maybe down 50hp, but about 500lbs lighter should more than make it up? I'm thinking it needed a good bit more time/effort invested in tuning the engine to better suit the new headers/exhaust. Otherwise a very nice car, though, well put-together, plenty of potential, and had all the rest of the req'd options (951 LSD trans, suspension etc).

Though I agree, going to all that trouble, seems like why not just hold out for a nice used C6 Z06! Prices will become reasonable soon...
Old 09-02-2008, 12:23 PM
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try bolting some LS6 parts onto that LS1 and itll pick up nicely.
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
maybe is something you realize after owning one but i for one cant tell the difference except for the V logo versus the holden sign...
Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
try bolting some LS6 parts onto that LS1 and itll pick up nicely.
Once again you have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you have nothing better to do than post as fact statements that are incorrect.



Study the above picture, then tell me a PPPPPontiac looks like that.
I rest my case!

Now research the interchageability of LS parts. Just because they start with LT or LS does not mean they are from the same foundation and parts are interchangeable.


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