Tom R.

Say there are two identical condition cars for sale next to each other.

One is a 91 S2 the other is a 92 968. Both have the same miles, same options (or lack thereof) and are in the same condition. Say the condition is better to much better than average.

Pick a value for one, and tell me how much more or less for the other.

similar to what we say when we compare a NA manual and a NA auto - "deduct about 30% for the auto".

soltino

+15% - 968


tino

Potomac-Greg

I agree. The new body style (even though cosmetic) adds value.

V2Rocket

tougher 6-speed, more power...better looking...rarer

M758

The 968 will be 1 to 2k higher since it is a 968. You can argue all day long if it worth that much more however.

Tom R.

first two are facts, third is subjective, and fourth i am pretty sure is wrong. There are only about 3000 S2s in the US.

Not questioning if it is worth it, trying to figure out what the real value compared to the asking price is. My car and 5k for a 968 that has the same options or my car and 1k for the my car and a 968 with the same options, or what in between? Then how much is a LSD worth? How much is the holy grail M030 worth?

How much do you deduct if the 968 has the original clutch and cam tensioner pad?

I cant chase women any more, cant chase business deals outside of my job, so i chase old cars to keep the hunter instinct alive inside.

J Berk

My 2 cents

1991 S2 - $7k - $10k depending on mileage, options, condiiton, records

1992 968 - $7k - $15k (see above modifiers)

Riff

FWIW I think MO30 on a 968 should not command a premium unless you are planning on running in a stock AX class in SCCA. I would think the shocks would need replacing by now and the bars can be had for much less than the 1K-2K diff M758 was noting. Now adding an LSD to either car will run a min of $1500 and would tip the scales one way or the other for me.

I am not sure how much premium I would place on the additional 36 hp of the 968 vs the S2. Looks are a matter of preference but newer is newer so I would think the $2K diff between the two if optioned the same and in the same condition.

Tom R.

How about the bigger brakes of the M030?

I know my car needs about 500 to be cosmetically perfect. there is a guy with a 92 that has the same mileage and the original clutch. needs at least 500 to be cosmetically perfect as well.

mine has M030 shocks and weltmeister sways, his is bone stock, no LSD.

So, how much more should his 92 with the original clutch be worth than my 90 with a brand new clutch (forget about the other goodies on my car)?

im thinking if i swapped suspensions and turned mine back to stock would i get 9k for my car? if so how much do i give him for his car?

then how much more for a year newer, same car, two years newer, same car?

the thing is would someone pay 9500 for a 9/10 new blah blah blah stock S2?

J Berk

The 'right' person would pay $9500 Tom...someone who knows our cars....which rules out things like the quick ebay sale. I have much more than that invested in my 91 S2 and I am sure it's not in any better shape than yours...and it's got 195k on the odo ...not like your low mileage s2...so $9500 is a great deal for a well sorted, low mile, late s2....if you're looking for one and know 944's.

Might take a while to find that person though....

V2Rocket

you're right - there were more 968s (cabs/coupes) imported than S2s.

944CS

At least 2 grand more for the 968...the reason I say at least is because how much more really depends on how bad the buyer wants the updated body/engine/6 speed...

Tom R.

yeah, thats sort of what im thinking. then i look at the ad for the 47k mile 968 that may have LSD with a 16k asking price and wonder where that should end up. i think the sellers are a little out of touch with the market.

Then there is the 92 968 with no LSD, original clutch etc. is worth say 10, then swap my suspension into it etc. and i am at say 11 after aligning and balancing both cars, etc, and that has the original clutch. so,i wonder if 10 is too high. and if it is, would an offer below 10 be taken as an insult since the seller is asking 13?