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Old 03-20-2008, 11:29 PM
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I started the 944 the other day to take it for a drive. It was cold so I let it warm up for a couple minutes when I got in it the temp guage was glowing.
I checked the oil today and have a lovely milkshake. So I guess it's time to put the new engine in the 944.
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Happened to me 2 years ago in a driving rainstorm in morning rush hour traffic.

New head gasket, complete new cooling system, flush, top end rebuild, timing belts, rollers, filters, oils, water pump, and all was $2800. Work done by local performance shop.

If I had to do it over again, I would contact Russ at DC Auto and get a 968 or 944S engine.
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Originally Posted by mpd425
I started the 944 the other day to take it for a drive. It was cold so I let it warm up for a couple minutes when I got in it the temp guage was glowing.
I checked the oil today and have a lovely milkshake. So I guess it's time to put the new engine in the 944.
That's hardly an indication of needing a new motor. But if you're the kind of guy who buys a new car because the old one is out of gas, I guess you could address it that way.

Oil cooler seals? Head gasket? If you're particularly unlucky like I was, you'll find the head might be cracked. It cost me about $500 to get all of this sorted out (in parts and machine work). And it was a whole lot easier than dropping another motor in.
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That's hardly an indication of needing a new motor. .
I already have an extra engine sitting in the corner of the garage with 63000 miles on it. I just need to swap it out. I's just hard to find the time.
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I already have an extra engine sitting in the corner of the garage with 63000 miles on it. I just need to swap it out. I's just hard to find the time.
Well, that does make the engine swap more attractive

And I hear you on time. My head took me about 25 hours to do, including all the cleaning and while you're in there's. That took me just about 4 months to pull off.
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I figure that I'll replace it then rebuild the old one and save it for the future. I hope I can find the time soon with nice weather on the horizon I would like to be able to drive it. I'm getting tired of driving the work van everywhere.
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You're kidding right! Unless you've overheated reasently the HG isn't usually the problem... oil cooler seals are a more than likely culprit! Either one of these are nothing to change an engine over, unless you just want to put the other one in ;-)
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anyone have an idea of what it would take to swap the motor? how much would it cost to have it done somewhere?
and what would need to be changed if the motor was from a different kind of car. like a 968, 944S2, etc.
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I would do it if I had an extra engine. Of course, since your other engine seems to be the one with the least miles, I would just do the necessary work to get your current one running, then spend some time tearing down and rebuilding the extra engine. Doing the headgasket, or oil cooler seals, could be the cheaper and easier route, consider if you change out your engine, you might want to put in a new clutch (if necessary) and maybe some new engine mounts, and maybe freshen up the engine bay.. and even after all of that your new engine might end up blowing a head gasket..

just my 2 cents..

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Originally Posted by nh7cy
I would do it if I had an extra engine. Of course, since you're other engine seems to be the one with the least miles, I would just do the necessary work to get your current one running, then spend some time tearing down and rebuilding the extra engine. Doing the headgasket, or oil cooler seals, could be the cheaper and easier route, consider if you change out your engine, you might want to put in a new clutch (if necessary) and maybe some new engine mounts, and maybe freshen up the engine bay.. and even after all of that your new engine might end up blowing a head gasket..

just my 2 cents..
Actually that's what I'm going to do. Last night I bought the oil cooler seal kit from Paragon.
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Originally Posted by mpd425
Actually that's what I'm going to do. Last night I bought the oil cooler seal kit from Paragon.
Atta' boy!
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Sweet! Be sure to post pics!
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GOBOGIE After your post yesterday I thought I would rather fix the one in the 944 to get it on the road faster and then take my time making sure the other one is rebuilt and ready to go.



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