Voith

no they gave sony user manuals...

Darwantae951

I'll send my PO an email just to confirm. Seems no one here can believe that sometimes things aren't always as advertised.

-Darwin

Erzengal

When you use PET from a Porsche Dealer it does make a distiction. When a car is a full Turbo-S, it shows as such. This car listed shows as a Turbo only. However it has under its options: M758 = Special Model 944 Turbo S '88. This is done at the factory however, and not a kit. Though, this is the first time I've seen it shown as such.

You can also tell via other Porsche resources, with the VIN. Everything about what the car has on it. Paint Codes, Interior Codes, etc.

Also, as I look closer at PET, it should indeed have a 180MPH speedo, S or Non-S reguardless.

Jfrahm

At some point it just beggars belief. A 10K mile time capsule car, that just happened to get an oddball speedo from the factory, and a delete of the EQ?

I suppose if it was lying around a dealership for years a few parts might wander off. Who knows?
Too bad there isn't more documentation.

Darwantae951

True, either way you look at it he isn't asking an out of world price for a very nice 951. If he waits, then he'll get it (and I hope he does).

-Darwin

Jfrahm

Oh? What's the asking price? It's currently at $22k, reserve not met.

fastmover

In 1988 and 1989 Porsche was in Deep financial troubles, the 88 turbo s was meant to be 1000 units built, with about 700 earmarked for US sale, the first 300 sold so fast they quickly increased production plans to 1000. the original turbo s had no sunroof, headlight washers, a/c, power windows etc. US market came fully optioned, with sunroof, a.c, central locking etc. and all were meant to be silver rose. somtime in 88 Porsche opened up and allowed turbos to be ordered with the 758 package as an option (much like how you can order a new 911 with the x51 package) instead of 1 way or else deal. In hopes to bring unit sales up some more. So technically it is not a turbo s by model designation, it is a turbo with the s option package. My turbo s (silver rose) has the 490 without the in dash e.q. and its is the original radio, same factory antitheft code that is stored in porsche records. It also does not have any wiring for the eq. so it was not removed. Porsche wiring harness are built vin and option code specific any how.
Most of the non silver rose turbo s's were ordered in this fashion. because the us market was not hot on the interior combination, rainbow checkered plaid stripes on the seats and door panels. So actually there is only about 300 or so model designated turbo s's. And most were sold in europe. I will also check PET tommorrow about the 160 mph speedo deal and may be call a 944 guru in PCNA.


Semper Fi.

GloriaRedStang

Found it on www.autotrader.com. Asking price is $29k. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=40

They're selling Jerry Seinfeld's 993 as well: http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/in...ASC&cardist=25

Tom R.

my 89 NA was linnen/blue with the ten speaker option, and no equalizer.

Tom R.

yeah, and Jerrys 1997 is really a 997 model year 200?
So i guess when you cant represent a car you want about 100k+ for provenance correctly...

nize

fyi, every 951 in 88, regardless wether it was turbo-s or not, came with the 180mph speedo. the 180mph speedo was not a turbo-s package, it was a 1988+ model year change.

Jfrahm

I maintain that the EQ is a part of the 10-speaker option and the EQ should be there. if it is not, that's an anomaly. There was no option code for a 10 speaker setup without the EQ/power booster, and with what I know about factory car audio I do not think they would spec a system like that without the additional amplification.

Yes, OK there might be a car or two that left the lot without the EQ (probably did not leave the factory that way.) I worked at a dealership when I was in HS and those guys would add and remove a few things if that's what it took to make a sale.

According to the Autotrader ad, the car has never been titled. If so I would wonder if the car got messed with a bit and a few parts borrowed off of it over time. Someone might have wanted to upgrade to a 180mph speedo, someone wanted an EQ. The car was just sitting there.

It must have worn dealer plates to get almost 10k miles without being titled. Can you put any number of miles on a car before titling it with the MSO?

Found this on ask.com

"demonstration vehicles for test drives and such that can be driven up to 10,000 miles and still be considered “new” because they were never registered to an individual, although sometimes those cars are available cheaper than if they were fresh off the assembly line."

If 10K is a magic number, the odd speedo starts to make some sense.
-Joel.

Darwantae951

At the end of the day this is just an internet forum.

-Darwin

Voith

do you have any proof of that?

ChrisJ951

If you look at any road and track or motortrend article on the 88 TS or 89 Turbo, under specifications it will list a 180 mph speedo. There is something fishy with this car. I sent an email to the ebay listing and never heard back.