NeoRules

Ok... Just picked up a mostly complete 951.
tore the front end off and found the frame is in fact tweeked and the car is going to require too much for me to repair... (cut off the inner fenders and reweld used ones in... Plust there is some other electrical and body issues with the car...

So is it possible to lift my 88 body up and dropp it down on the drivetrain / suspension of an 86 951?
I have a nice white na that is pretty much perfect with a blown motor.. and a 951 that needs the engine resealed and replumbed and a new clutch... the body I am afraid is out of my league....

Other than maybe having to insert an aftermarked boost guage is there anything else I need to do the swap?
If this is a royal PITA I may have to just part the turbo and keep woking on a new engine for the 88....
JC

GhostHacker

Everone here will tell you that its a PITA and that you should sell everything to buy a working 951. I haven't done it but have looked at it alot.

The drive train should mount right up, and you'll need the exaust from the 951.

As suspension there could be conflict depending on whether the one car of the other is Sport, M030, ect. I don't think the after market parts are interchangeable without alot of work.

The same goes for the brakes except one of the sponsors has a nice set of 944 only 4 caliper brakes thatare suppose to be better than stock 951 brakes and are a direct fit.

I hope some of this helps,
Adam

Airflite40

If you have the whole turbo car, I don't see why not.

Rock and Xsboost90 did it with an S2 cab.

StyleLab

Remember the S2 cab already shares a whole bunch of bits with the turbo. If you have enough time on your hands, everything should bolt up like cake no problem.

NeoRules

Cool... just one more question in case I change my mind.. will an 83 rear quarter panel and front inner fender / frame fit an 86?
I may still be able to salvage this one... but I doubt it...
JC

TRWright

Part them both and you will have enough money to buy a nice 951. Or do the same amount of (or more) work and have a half-assed cobbled together worthless-to-anyone-but-you 944.

Xs did it with an s2 cab because he wanted a 951 cab and those are a bit tough to come by

Legoland951

No the front will not bolt up since the late 944/turbo has the intercooler mounting points and the header panel is welded on the early one. You will have to fabricate something for it to work. The turbo header panel is longer to accomodate the intercooler so I am not sure it will even fit under the early header panel. A 968 cab or 944s2 cab are the only 2 cars where I would even consider a conversion.

Airflite40

He is trying to swap the 86 turbo drivetrain into his 88 N/A.
The header panel on 88's was not welded on, and neither was the 86 951 header panel.
So why can't he just take the 951 header panel on put it on the 88 N/A?

Legoland951

I missed that part. The turbo header is longer I think to house the intercooler.

white924s

turbos don't have headers - just exhaust manifolds to the turbo. I think the engine should more or less fit, although you may need to do some custom fabrication to fit the intercooler and plumbing in.

Mighty Shilling

should be alright...

most people, when they ask, have a 944, and want to slap a turbo on it...
since you have a good 951 drivetrain, and a good 944 body, hell, why not? won't cost too much more, it'll be a good project, and in theory it should work...

good luck!

BTW, you WILL need new fenders/nose panel/headlights if you want the front end to be 951-like

NeoRules

To answer the last few posts in a nutshell I was thinking of trying to re-use the 951 fenders and either fixing the header or getting a fiberglass one.
As far as the front valance goes it is broken right over the marker light. I need to go to Clarks and look as to what goes behind the bumper as all that stuff was missing... this 951 valance was held on by three screws and was almost dragging the ground.

I think the owner prior to the gentleman I bought it from had hit something really hard and tore out anything behind the valance that looked damaged and then tried to hang the valance without any bumper supports. He even had to tear away sheet metal below the one headlight and cut the headlight stops off one side just to get the headlights to sit right. I think the passenger side is pushed up and back....

The passenger side wheel tilts in at the top and it looks like the frame / inner fender is tweaked pretty good on that side.

If I change the valance / fenders / header should that cover it or do I need to change anything with the headlights?
I will pull the 944 header off and measure the space beneath it to ensure there is room for the intercooler..

ohh the 83 question is if I cut the frame off the passenger front and attach it to the radiator support and the firewall are the frame / inner fenders similar enough to make the swap?... I only need to fix the tweaked part not replace the whole core support.
JC

Airflite40

IIRC the headlight covers are different too.

AlexE

86 turbo ->88 NA

You need to swap front fenders, light covers, header panel, front bumper assembly....

You will need to swap over the turbo fuel pump

Complete engine, clutch, tranny, axles, exhaust system, wiring harness

Also you will need to wire up the turbo timer.

A number of heat shields need to be swapped over as well.

Thats all that comes to mind right now.

That thingy on the brake master cylinder. Bias valve?

V2Rocket

What if you don't want the turbo nose, still need to swap fenders?