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Old 03-16-2007, 08:59 PM
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oil change? and I'm referring to the drain plug magnet...

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I just did an oil change last night, and found a slight dusing of them on the tip of the magnet.... I dont know if this is normal.. but it wasnt' enough to scare me.
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When I drained my oil prior to my teardown I saw nothing on the magnet...
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x2 to nothing on the magnet
Old 03-17-2007, 03:44 AM
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x2 to nothing on the magnet
dude, where do you live in auburn?!?! Your like 15 minutes away from me and I have never seen a single 951 in auburn. but yeh, i never get anything on the magnet and im getting close to 200k miles
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yikes... okay well maybe we both have some kinda issue going on. What oil do you use? How long did you last change oil? I was using Syntec 5-50... this last oil change was during a few months of cold weather, and more than average highway driving for me. She's at 225Kkm.
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I had a shop do my last oil change, so I don't know what brand, but I know it is not synthetic. Its probably 20-50. Did right around 3k mi and 3months on that oil. Car only has 85k mi, but had a going headgasket at the time of that oil.
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I changed my Pennzoil 20W50 a few days ago and saw shavings on the plug...where do they come from? They're obviously iron or steel (magnetic)
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bearings, and rings and such
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relax guys its not that big of a deal. If shavings were not supposed to accumulate within the engine, Porsche would not have wasted their money on magnets... If the motors were junk by the time fine particles accumulated, there would be no point in taking it out with a magnet, you could scoop it out when you threw the rest of the motor away. Now that being said, you should not see big chuncks of metal. Usually if I see anything on the drain plugs in my P-cars (which I usually do), it is a grey paste, that doesn't really look very metallic until you move it around between your fingers. Big chunks can mean problems, a friend of mine started seeing parts of his chiain ramps on his sump plug in his 911... that was a little scary.
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lol...THAT sucks.

They were like little shavings all squished together...my bearings are all new though
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I usually get a few very fine shavings.
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You should get your oil analyzed. They'll report back with what types of metal are present in your oil and at what levels. That'll help you diagnose what is actually there and what you might need to fix.
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thanks for the info, my 83 used to get the grey paste too
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I've always gotten a little grey paste at every oil change. One of these days I'm goig to send an oil sample to be lab analyzed....



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