944SMAX is HERE! Rennlist Discount thru 11/30/06
10-26-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jgporsche
This is all OT, if we want to carry this conversation on, we need to move it to another thread.
10-26-2006, 12:47 PM
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I started this thread to announce and discuss the 944SMAX chips. Having said that, I don't care if you talk about Mustang Cobras or your recipe for opossum casserole...
Just have fun
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Russell
Just have fun
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Russell
10-26-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by czar
Just wondering about your remark, Jesse, since if your numbers are more accurate, the chip estimates (4-6 hp) are conserv. I was wondering the NA @ wheels to compare since I don't feel a significant difference b/w my S and a plain 944. Is this worth the money and will I feel the difference?
10-26-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jgporsche
The S and N/A are 2 different animals. You should feel a difference in the upper RPM range on the S. But YES, this chip is DEFINITELY worth the money. Overall driveability is incredible. The car wants to accelerate ALL the time. you will be incredibly surprised by the throttle response.
That's a pretty strong endorsement...I will buy one, but I will hold you responsible for the result...j/k.
I do agree that they drive differently, especially in the upper rpm's, but I have to say it's not what I expected. Also, unfortunately, my gauge's out right now, so I'm leary to push it.
10-26-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by czar
That's a pretty strong endorsement...I will buy one, but I will hold you responsible for the result...j/k.
I do agree that they drive differently, especially in the upper rpm's, but I have to say it's not what I expected. Also, unfortunately, my gauge's out right now, so I'm leary to push it.
I do agree that they drive differently, especially in the upper rpm's, but I have to say it's not what I expected. Also, unfortunately, my gauge's out right now, so I'm leary to push it.
Regards,
Russell
10-26-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rberry951
wife is mad about it...
Regards,
Russell
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Russell
I'll be placing my order today.
THanks
10-26-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jgporsche
Most stock 944S dyno charts read between 138-141whp.
10-26-2006, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jgporsche
prove me wrong.
Originally Posted by rberry951
On today's dyno we gained 5HP over stock...
150 >> 138 to 141 rwhp
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Originally Posted by rberry951
...I've seen dynos on here of 2.5L NA cars ranging from 125-133rwhp....
133 with 15% drivetrain loss = 153hp
Both of these match with the factory raitings so 15% seems reasonable.
So 138 whp = 158 crank hp
141 whp = 162 crank hp These are 26-30 hp below Crank spec of 188 for the S
150 whp = 172
155 whp = 175
Both of these are close to the factory rated 188, but still under.
Using 15% drivetrain loss whp should be stock at 164 hp for the S.
Still the chip showed a 5hp gain on the 16v 2.5L motor. That is pretty nice for a chip, but I am expecting 2-3 hp for the 8valve motor.
10-26-2006, 06:30 PM
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Wow your motor must be sick...
My 8valve car dynoed at 134 whp with a stock paper air filter, stock headers, stock muffler. Only mods were a mystery chip and no cat. Either that you need to change the tranny fluid really badly.
Mine was on a dyno dynamics Dyno as well.
My 8valve car dynoed at 134 whp with a stock paper air filter, stock headers, stock muffler. Only mods were a mystery chip and no cat. Either that you need to change the tranny fluid really badly.
Mine was on a dyno dynamics Dyno as well.
10-26-2006, 06:31 PM
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Nope, my motor is tip top. I have a friend of mine whose '87 944S dyno'ed @ 138. I was doing a search for stock dyno charts awhile back and saw 1 @ 140. It seems Porsche just overstated the power.