intrepidagent

I'm looking for a set of 16" Fuchs for an 86 NA I'm going to be picking up. Which ones will fit? (part or casting numbers tell the tale I presume). Additionally which size tires are the largest I can fit on 16x7's (front) and 16x8's (rear) without rubbing?

Thanks for your patience with the newbie.

M758

951 fuchs will fit. I think 911 fuchs will fit too.

I think you can stuff 8's in front and probably 9's in the rear. 9's are quite expensive however and may not be the right offset for a 944.

StoogeMoe

You can use either the 911 Fuchs or the harder to find 951 Fuchs. You want 23mm offset. You don't need the extra clearance for the brake caliper with the 951 on the NA.

I use the stock set up for this option - 205's up front and 225's at the rear.

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1983 944 NA - Platinum metallic - 3000 mi beginning a new life
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M758

with 7's and 8's you can fit 225/50 front and 245/45 rears. This was stock for the 944 Turbo S. 205/225 was stock for the standard 944 Turbo

intrepidagent

Has anyone here run 16x7's or 16x8's all around? Might be good as I can rotate all 4.

Additionally, does anyone have a set they are willing to sell?

2 (or 4) 16x7

2 (or 4) 16x8 ??

tifosiman

Didn't the turboS have 9" rears though?

245's work on 8's but to me they have a lot of sidewall buldge. I think they work better on 9's, but if I only had 7's and 8's I would probably go by what Joe said above and do the 225/245 combo. 205's are just not much rubber on the front of these cars (again another person opinion).

As mentioned before, all 16X7 and 16X8 Fuchs will work on your car. The ones with 911 part #'s will be cheaper than the 951# ones and be easier to locate as well.

jpk

A couple of years ago, I picked up a set (pair of 16x7 and 16x8) of the newer replicas (same ones performance products sells) I got them from a dealer out in CA (Fontana maybee?) for less than $600 for the set + shipping.
These were Italian made, very good quality and finish. They were cast, not forged, so they are a little heavier than the originals, but not by much (maybee 21# for the 7", 23# for the 8")
I had the 225/50 and 245/45 combination which fit well on the '84. 225's all around on the 7" shouldn't be a problem, but I never tried fitting one of those on the back to see how it would work - the offset was different (58 vs 23 mm) which is pretty much the same as the width difference, so it should be prtty much the same at the fender lip, more on the inside.

M758

Yep... so 9's will fit. The issue is that I don't know if 9" FUCHS will fit. Not sure what the offset is for those. I think 245's should befine on 8's. On my 9's these seem a little small really. Too bad there is not a 16" tire wider than 245 with the proper overall diameter.

tifosiman

9" Fuchs are 15mm offset. They fit just perfect on the rear, and actually will fit up front with 2.5" aftermarket coil-overs on there (but not with stock springs).

I agree, 245's *almost* seem a little small on my 9" Fuchs. But they still look better than cramming the 245's onto the 8's (but that does work OK). It is too bad that the 255/40 size is no longer available, that is the ideal size for 9's and what the Turbo Cup cars ran on the rears.

Jay Gratton

I have a set of '86 951 fuchs just sitting around. I wasn't thinking about selling them, but if the pric is right everything can be for sale. Do some reserch and make me an offer if you want. - Jay

intrepidagent

What size are they Jay? If you want to sell them give me a price. I'm not very good at evaluating what your price threshold is.

yellowline

If only I had the money and didn't already have 8 wheels. I'm <2 hours from you.

Keithr726

I have 16x8's all around my on my 83. Pics can be seen here:

https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/290661-my-1983-944-is-now-for-sale-56k-beware.html

tifosiman

86 951 Fuchs are 16X7 front and 16X8 rear. They are 23mm offset and are made to fit over the larger 951 calipers (911 Fuchs do not clear 951 calipers). They look slightly different than the regular 911 Fuchs of the same sizes. The 7" 951 Fuchs sorta look like the 6" 911 Fuchs from the outside, and the 8" 951 Fuchs sorta look like the 7" 911 Fuchs from the outside (the "petals" are pushed out further on the rim, and also carved out a little on the inside, to clear the calipers).

951 fuchs are getting hard to find, especially the rear 8" ones. They are desirable for people doing larger brake conversions that want to retain the classic 16" Fuch look, and they are also coveted by 911 guys because they fir nicely under the front SC wheel arches when going to the 8 and 9 inch set up.

As far as pricing goes, a little research will give you what the going pricing range is for them. I would comment but it isn't my sale and I wouldn't want to inflate/deflate the pricing..................

jjjr944

Yes.
Late 930 Fuchs fit the NA 944 as stated.
If it's not a concourse car, I'd buy the cast replics if you just want the look.

Our own Dr. Boost has sent an original 930 set my way via cash exchange and I owe him years of servitude in addition to the check I cut. Trust me.
Now to get the 4 fockers refinished in time for Fest next year...

7x16, 23.3 ET 112mm backspacing 911.362.115.00
9x16, 15 ET 130mm backspacing 911.362.118.00

(FYI for the 951 Fuchs:
7x16, 23.3 ET 138mm backspacing 951.362.115.00
8x16, 23.3 ET 125mm backspacing 951.362.117.00)




These are 951 7&8 Fuchs (yea, I know--bad context):