SS S2

(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT) is the whole link

Blue S2

These cars are worth what someone is willing to pay. I'de pay 17k for a "perfect" S2. Then again, my definition of perfect is gonna be damn critical considering i can lick my engine without fear of dirt or dust.

Certain features draw a premium to certain buyers. A zyclam 1991 S2 cab probably could fetch a nice $20k from a real 944 nut if it was immaculate. You will probably never find another similar now a days.

For that price, the car better need nothing and run like you just bought it new in my opinion. As stated before, "there is a butt for every seat!" Someone will want it and find value. 95% of Rennlist probably wont! Panorama is the better option for the buyers that do however. At least that has been my own observation.

Stuff like LSD, M030, full leather,10 speaker, and some of the rarer options and techquipment might also enhance the collectability.

SS S2

Good points Blue...in fact, I am glad you agree on value. As for the engine, when you coming over for dinner, I'll keep the hood down until you get her so the food stays warm.

The car has an LSD but no M030. I agree on the collectibility on certain optioned cars, but first you have to find a car like this to begin with....that is where the collectibility really begins.

SamGrant951

ebay link doesnt work for me, anyone?

PCA 944

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270022278493

Seems like a really nice car. For $17k you could buy something faster (951) but the pristine condition is worth a premium.

SS S2

I see your point PCA 944, but is faster really the issue? You are buying a very well balance car with VERY low miles and in MINT condition. If you want speed, go buy a V-8. These are cars with Avg. to good speed (for todays cars) but increadible handling....again, just a well balanced car that has a classic look and excellent road feel.

Take the Datsun 240Z, for example. Just a great driving/road car. Put it up agaist a 350Z and its numbers just don't even come close....but that car is still on car and drivers all time great cars.

In either case, I can certainly respect your thoughts and agree with the point you make.

Tom R.

And my GTO is even faster. What is your point? Are you going to get a 951 cabrio for 17k?

Given the choice I would take an S2 over a 951. In fact, I made that choice and took an S2 twice over a 951. I would have preferred to get a S2 instead of my current 951, but the right car for my wants came along at the right time, and my brother said he wanted my S2 at the same time.

I am one of those people that prefers low end torque and a linear power band.

Now watch the thread turn into a 951 v S2 thread.

Stephen Porter

There was an '86 stock 951 with 19K miles on it that sold on eBay for $17.9K about two months ago. I think an '88S or '89 with similar miles would bring $20K.

There is/was also an '89 951 with 12K miles (plus GT3 seats and premium wheels and a few other goodies--but no major mods) that was advertised here and on Pelican for $30K and was SOLD, for close to that (according to the owner). Unfortunately he wrecked the car on its last drive and it has been parted out here on the "For Sale" forum.

So truly pristine cars will bring a premium. Or I sure hope they do!!

34K miles is pushing it though. And there are Concours and there are Concours..... I would think that $14-15K would certainly be in the ballpark for a really, really nice, low-mileage S2 coupe.

BTW, I love S2's. Much better daily drivers than 951's, IMHO.

My .02, YMMV, etc., etc., etc.

PCA 944

I only meant to say you could get a faster car in the 944 line up for a similiar price. Speed isn't everything though, but I believe a 951 and a 944S2 would have similiar handling. Still, I don't want to make this a 951 vs. S2 thread.

The more 944s sell for, the better it is for the rest of us and our not so low mileage cars. Besides, your a bit biased.

Brian Morris

I think the car is priced on the high end of "realistic". It's not like it's priced at 20 or 25. Here's an '87 951 w/ 21K miles that sold for 16K on ebay. It sold fairly quickly with "buy it now". I think this S2 would be in the same price range.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

--Brian Morris
89 951

SS S2

I can easily see that there is definately a 951 buyer type and a S2 buyer type. However, I hear of more 951 types going with the S2 if the cars are equal in mileage, options, etc. I guess the fact that the S2 seems to have a higher reliability/daily driver factor and the 951 is the winner in the mods catagory. Also...it seems most S2 buyers seem to REALLY love the choice they made, while I see a few 951 buyers flipping cars and in repair mode a bit more.

Brian, I saw that 951 and it was a dealer selling it. The car was clean but had some down falls. There were no records on the car, a few owners and a God aweful color combo. Not to mention that the car did sit for some time with no maintenance. If that car went for 16K, my S2 is a deal at 16K as it has the LSD, records, all kinds of maint. and a complete history. However, I see everyone's point and I would think that somewhere in the mid/hi $15K to $16K is about right for my S2.

Like I said, I will work with any real buyer.

Tom R.

similar as in identical? read the FAQs. I believe the S2 front springs are a few #s less than the 951s. The S2 has the same sways, same two piston brembos, same part numbers on just about every 951 part. And best of all - they come in the same colors so when I had my Red S2 it looked just like the Red 951 in the poster i have.

yep, i would say the handling of the two would be similar.

SS S2

Well, I took the little red ***** out for a German tune up this Sunday out the 10 Fwy at about 7:00 AM. Nothing but cool air and open highway. After that, I took her out to Hwy 18 for an unobstructed run to Big Bear, CA. For those of you that don't know the road, it is a mountain trek climbing about 6,500 ft on 36 miles of a twisty mountain roads and then another 36 back down again. Those of you that have driven it know what I mean when I say Hwy 18 was made for this car. I don't care how many times I do it, that road is still an absolute blast; especially with nobody on it. However, this particular morning was much more fun as I got to lay the smack-down on some poor sole in a white 951. At altitude, that turbocharger didn't give him that much help.

When we got to the top, we found a turn out and pulled over to talk. Very nice guy who, like me, only drives his Porsche on the weekends. He was doing the exact same thing I was. He said that he was not holding back and the car was running good...it was pretty clear that he just didn't have some of the driving experience I have had. You know, weekend warrior type early apex's, etc. (To be perfectly honest, I had to slow down twice on the way up just to keep it interesting) I didn't share that as I wanted this meeting to remain friendly. On the way down, I wasn't so friendly; all he saw was tailights.

The S2 ran flawlessly and huged every turn like a mother does a newborn! Not one funky rattle, not one hick-up with the engine and smooth easy shifting through the gears.

Someone better pick this car up before I change my mind!!

H2

Sometimes a car is "worth" more than it would list far because of the condition or provenance. If I were in the market for the best S2 I could find, this price would not be unreasonable. Do you want the best or a beater? Or something in between? This one apparently is one of the few remaining best.....and i don't know the owner. Either way a PPI is always in order when buying a used car.

Harvey

SS S2

Here here Hughett! Well stated...