Feeler post: Lift bars
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Feeler post: Lift bars
Hi all, I was surfing over on the 928 board a couple of weeks ago and ran across a project that one of the members there was doing to create 'lift bars' for their cars.
Here's a little movie of what the bar is and how it works:
And here's the original thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/253137-lift-bar-count.html
Apparently only the late 928's had center jack points, which made the need for these bars that much more critical. However, I think that even with our center jack point they would still be advantageous:
- They would provide a stable place to put jack stands on
- They would be able to rotate on the saddle of the stands, which would make jacking up the other side safer and easier.
So, the question. Ken estimates he could sell these to us 924/944/968 types for somewhere between $120-$160 + shipping, how many of you would be interested at that price?
PS I have no affilitation with Ken, other than as an interested potiential customer. Just trying to help determine if there's a market here.
Here's a little movie of what the bar is and how it works:
And here's the original thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/253137-lift-bar-count.html
Apparently only the late 928's had center jack points, which made the need for these bars that much more critical. However, I think that even with our center jack point they would still be advantageous:
- They would provide a stable place to put jack stands on
- They would be able to rotate on the saddle of the stands, which would make jacking up the other side safer and easier.
So, the question. Ken estimates he could sell these to us 924/944/968 types for somewhere between $120-$160 + shipping, how many of you would be interested at that price?
PS I have no affilitation with Ken, other than as an interested potiential customer. Just trying to help determine if there's a market here.
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its an interesting concept. as already stated I think the ground clearance would be an issue. Maybe a better solution is something about 12-18 inches wide made fit a more central point near the jack point, just to distribute the weight on the jack.
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maybe 928's dont already have a jack point in the center of the rocker. 924/944's do however. Wonder if you could use something like that to jack the rear of the car up, it is hard to jack just the rearend up.
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Riff - Excellent idea. He was thinking about using magnets to hold the bar to the car, so if it was just a 'jack stand' bar we could put them in place with the magenets, lift it using the center jack point and then put the stands on the bars.
I'll pass it along, thanks.
I'll pass it along, thanks.
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To begin with 928's are not 4 X 4's .
928's do not have the center jack point and although the center jack point helps on the 944 you cannot get the car high enough off the ground and level to get the car on all four jacks as easily as you can with the bar Ken makes up. These bars lift the car high and perfectly level.
I purchased a set for my GTS and it works great. An effortless lift and you are up on all 4 corners in little time. I agree the 944's do not need this as much as the 928's do but for an easy effortless lift it works great. If your car is too low just drive it up on some planks first and it gives you the clearance you need. Of course a nice floor lift would be best, but this is heck of a lot cheaper than the $2k cost of these lifts. If you are constantly lifting your car at all 4 corners this is a great idea that will save you 50% of the time it takes to do it normally. If you rarely lift your car it's up to you how important it is to spend the $$.
928's do not have the center jack point and although the center jack point helps on the 944 you cannot get the car high enough off the ground and level to get the car on all four jacks as easily as you can with the bar Ken makes up. These bars lift the car high and perfectly level.
I purchased a set for my GTS and it works great. An effortless lift and you are up on all 4 corners in little time. I agree the 944's do not need this as much as the 928's do but for an easy effortless lift it works great. If your car is too low just drive it up on some planks first and it gives you the clearance you need. Of course a nice floor lift would be best, but this is heck of a lot cheaper than the $2k cost of these lifts. If you are constantly lifting your car at all 4 corners this is a great idea that will save you 50% of the time it takes to do it normally. If you rarely lift your car it's up to you how important it is to spend the $$.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
To begin with 928's are not 4 X 4's .
Sure they are. I've seen minivans with lower ground clearances. Don't get me started on those fat assed beetles (AKA, C4)....
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Hate to get you strarted but I own one of each and my 928 at stock height sits lower and has a lower roof line than the 944. The 944 is a much more nimble car but for highway cruising and interior space nothing beats the GTS for comfort and performance combined. It is so smooth with almost 400 foot pounds of torque and I have walked away from 951's in it without an effort. Now if you want a car that sits high the 94 turbo even in its lowered state sits higher than both the 944 and 928. Although in its current state it will leave most anything miles behind. With a 0-100 time of about 8 seconds and a 60-120 time that will blow your mind it gives even the newest cars quite a run.
In case you haven't guessed by the 2 cars I like big buts so I am not insulted.
In case you haven't guessed by the 2 cars I like big buts so I am not insulted.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Hate to get you strarted but I own one of each and my 928 at stock height sits lower and has a lower roof line than the 944.
In case you haven't guessed by the 2 cars I like big buts so I am not insulted.
In case you haven't guessed by the 2 cars I like big buts so I am not insulted.
Just having fun.
After all I own a 951 and, by definition, suffer from big butt envy (just ask any one who owns a 928 and 911 turbo).
If I can ever get my wife to forget how much money I've spent on the 951, I'd love to get a 928 GT. Bring that booty to Daddy!
Last edited by streckfu's951; 05-25-2006 at 01:12 PM.
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Originally Posted by BlueDog944
its an interesting concept. as already stated I think the ground clearance would be an issue.
This past off-season, I had a new suspension put in my car - it now sits almost 2 inches lower! My roofline is even with that of my friend's Miata. Last night, I was tanking up at a gas station and my wife notes, "Your car is really lowered - I mean that Mini next to us looks like a tall giant compared to your car!"
Now if you can come up with something that helps lift a lowered 944, I'd be interested.
-Z-man.
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Originally Posted by streckfu's951
Just having fun.
After all I own a 951 and, by definition, suffer from big but envy (just ask any one who owns a 928 and 911 turbo).
If I can ever get my wife to forget how much money I've spent on the 951, I'd love to get a 928 GT. Bring that booty to Daddy!
After all I own a 951 and, by definition, suffer from big but envy (just ask any one who owns a 928 and 911 turbo).
If I can ever get my wife to forget how much money I've spent on the 951, I'd love to get a 928 GT. Bring that booty to Daddy!
One thing we all have a passion for is Porsche. They are all great but very different in their own right. Not unlike the 928's the 944 especially the 951's can be money pits but there is nothing like a well built 951 with the proper mods. Nimble, fast and very well balanced. I really wanted a 951 but I know if I started down that path I would need to sell one of my other cars to keep up with all the goodies I would want to add. Although the S2 is a very capable car you are limited on how far you can go. Hopefully this will keep me in check but it too appears to be using up the funds fast.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Although the S2 is a very capable car you are limited on how far you can go. Hopefully this will keep me in check but it too appears to be using up the funds fast.
I forgot to warn you about that before you bought the 944, didn't I...
-Z.