The longest clutch change . . .
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Originally Posted by MY83944
Plenty of pain in the 944land it appears -
Here is some more progress - Note the custom flywheel holder
Here is some more progress - Note the custom flywheel holder
I like that! I just used a large breaker bar on the front crank pully bolt.
Nice JNWeld job too, I hope that works....
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What is the secret to getting that bellhousing back on?
Do I need to have someone tilt the motor maybe?
Almost 70 here today, gotta take my other 900 series out for some fun -
919 that is!
Any help on ideas to make that bellhousing slide on easier will be much appreciated -
TIA,
Steve
Do I need to have someone tilt the motor maybe?
Almost 70 here today, gotta take my other 900 series out for some fun -
919 that is!
Any help on ideas to make that bellhousing slide on easier will be much appreciated -
TIA,
Steve
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It can a pita with the clutch already in. A few times, I had to shove the bell housing in along with the clutch assembly and bolt on the pressure plate bolts from the starter hole in the bell housing one at a time.
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I've done it with the clutch on, it's not _that_ bad. The real trick is getting the clutch form in properly.
IMO installing the clutch once the bellhousing is on is far harder
IMO installing the clutch once the bellhousing is on is far harder
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Originally Posted by MY83944
What is the secret to getting that bellhousing back on?
Do I need to have someone tilt the motor maybe?
Do I need to have someone tilt the motor maybe?
lol, for me the problem was getting the bell housing off. I had just put new motor mounts on 4 months before and no amount of prying, moving, fiddling and cussing was going to get that thing out of there. I ended up loosening the mount bolt to get the movement I needed. Once they were loose, it was no problem.
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I had a hard time getting the BH off but finally figured there was sweet spot if you rotate the BH very far to the left and then back to vertical. What bothered me is on the 83 the rear travel to push the TT housing was very small, rotating the TT helped get me another 1.5" of clearance up front for the BH. It was a real fun job, right up there with grooming badgers.
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Well, bellhousing back on, attaching the wires now.
This is the biggest POS I have ever worked on when it comes to the ability to easily work on it.
Now, the bolt to the ground in the top of the bell housing.
Stupid, stupid planners. Wait, no planning, the idiot that did a lot of the design work are completely out of touch with reality.
Rube Goldberg worked for Porsche.
I am going to take a bunch of stuff off so I can put that ground on, errrrrrrrrrrrr
This has possibly been the most frustrating experience I have ever had working on a car. Maybe if I had a real lift and a bigger work space, it would be a little better.
Or, if I drank - that would help.
The car better drive and ride like I remember or it is going up for sale.
I have way over $20K in this car (not including my time), do not buy a 944 unless you are willing and able to meet it's needed.
Everything is new, except . . . . the engine -
This is the biggest POS I have ever worked on when it comes to the ability to easily work on it.
Now, the bolt to the ground in the top of the bell housing.
Stupid, stupid planners. Wait, no planning, the idiot that did a lot of the design work are completely out of touch with reality.
Rube Goldberg worked for Porsche.
I am going to take a bunch of stuff off so I can put that ground on, errrrrrrrrrrrr
This has possibly been the most frustrating experience I have ever had working on a car. Maybe if I had a real lift and a bigger work space, it would be a little better.
Or, if I drank - that would help.
The car better drive and ride like I remember or it is going up for sale.
I have way over $20K in this car (not including my time), do not buy a 944 unless you are willing and able to meet it's needed.
Everything is new, except . . . . the engine -
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I gotta say, lift and work space make a VERY big difference. I couldn't fathom going back to working on the ground at this point, and have a LOT of sympathy for y'all that don't have that option, but thats not specific to the 944's, thats for pretty much any car. Everytime I start to think that 944's are bad to work on, I just take a look under the hood of my wife's Jeep or my S-10 work truck, and I usually feel a whole lot better about 944's. It helps that I have two drawers of "specialty tools" that I have collected over the years to work specifically on 944's tho...
Steve, we have GOT to meet up one of these days. I'm sorry we haven't been able to get up there and help you out, my work schedule has been crazy lately.
Regards,
Steve, we have GOT to meet up one of these days. I'm sorry we haven't been able to get up there and help you out, my work schedule has been crazy lately.
Regards,
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Thanks Scott
Now, the torque tube is being a total PIA, does nto want to go into the pilot bearing. Tried and tried and tried some more, I do not think my son will ever work on another car with me again.
We tried lifting the engine a little, holding our mouth this way and that - not a chance, I give up for today. That fiberglass heat insulation from near the bellhousing is eating my forarms up, they have itched bad for the last two days.
It got into my coveralls, well, yeah, uncomfortable.
And cramped, not enough space. Whoever said you could change the clutch with the car only XYZ inches off the ground obviously was not 6'4" tall.
That little hose that connect to the top of the watervalve seems to of decided to start dripping. Spent about 45 minutes trying to re-adjust that.
It seems everything is as hard as it possibly can be. It might be a year before I get this done - and it has really foiled me towards working on stuff as this has not been much fun.
It used to be fun . . . .
1983 Porsche 944
Fresh paint, Sienna Red Metallic
New brakes, brakes hoses, master cylinder.
New clutch and all that crap.
New belts, water pump and more.
New motor mounts, fresh interior, new fuel pump, I have a folder of reciepts -
Fuel injectors cleaned, new cap, rotor, plugs and wires, nice funky Dean brand tires -
Heck, brand new CV shafts -
I have to look at the list of money I have dumped into this car . . . .
Most importantly, I need to learn from this.
Now, the torque tube is being a total PIA, does nto want to go into the pilot bearing. Tried and tried and tried some more, I do not think my son will ever work on another car with me again.
We tried lifting the engine a little, holding our mouth this way and that - not a chance, I give up for today. That fiberglass heat insulation from near the bellhousing is eating my forarms up, they have itched bad for the last two days.
It got into my coveralls, well, yeah, uncomfortable.
And cramped, not enough space. Whoever said you could change the clutch with the car only XYZ inches off the ground obviously was not 6'4" tall.
That little hose that connect to the top of the watervalve seems to of decided to start dripping. Spent about 45 minutes trying to re-adjust that.
It seems everything is as hard as it possibly can be. It might be a year before I get this done - and it has really foiled me towards working on stuff as this has not been much fun.
It used to be fun . . . .
1983 Porsche 944
Fresh paint, Sienna Red Metallic
New brakes, brakes hoses, master cylinder.
New clutch and all that crap.
New belts, water pump and more.
New motor mounts, fresh interior, new fuel pump, I have a folder of reciepts -
Fuel injectors cleaned, new cap, rotor, plugs and wires, nice funky Dean brand tires -
Heck, brand new CV shafts -
I have to look at the list of money I have dumped into this car . . . .
Most importantly, I need to learn from this.
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Did your alignment tool slide in and out easily? If you just put in the tool, and tightened down the pressure plate, more than likely it is not centered perfectly (and was probably tight when you pulled out the tool). You must wiggle the alignment tool as you are tightening down the pressure plate....it should slide in and out with zero resistance. If you failed to do that, the metal torque tube is not going to want to go in.