The longest clutch change . . .
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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile
Oh you mean he wasn't the only one? Perish the thought!
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MY83944, its a little different working on a motorcycle. Your profession requires you to be ****. In a past life, I used to build gen 1 GSXRs and Ninjas of all engine sizes before I got into cars (owned and sold about 150 of them at one time or another and I wouldn't trust anyone else to work on my bike). More exotic materials were used with less tolerance and one mistake can cause someone's life (including my own) so there is not much "fudge" room. These 944s are overbuilt in many respects for the power the engine generates. The car is made to go 300k+ miles where high perf. bikes are made to go 30k+ miles. These same bell housing bolts can hold as much HP and torque as a 500 hp modified turbo, let alone the 143-150 being put out by an n/a engine. You are going to have a hell of a time trying to drill that out since whoever broke it in there used a tremendous amount of torque to crossthread it in or used a bolt with the wrong pitch. I remember encountering the same problem trying to get a broken timing belt tensioner stud out of the block. I am pretty resourceful but to save a long story, I took the block out and threw it away after spending 10 hours trying to get that broken piece out. The bolt had to be sent to a machine shop to be removed at a cost more than the block was worth and it had to be stripped bare first. If I had to do it again, I would have assessed the problem and gave up within the 1st hour. I would have used the remaining 9 hours to remove the engine and reinstalling it (just total up the amount of hours you work on this bolt including time on the computer typing and going to tool stores getting tools etc).
In your case, I would spend an hour trying to drill/chisel/beat that broken bolt out, then I would put it back together with 3 bolts unless I felt like removing the engine.
In your case, I would spend an hour trying to drill/chisel/beat that broken bolt out, then I would put it back together with 3 bolts unless I felt like removing the engine.
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The main bolt only holds the bell housing. The reference sensor bracket is not related to the bell housing since you can remove the bell housing without touching the reference sensor bracket.
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the bolt that holds the sensor bracket goes into the block. and that is the one in the first picture that i am refering to, and the one i was under the impression has been giving him a hard time. I didnt think he noticed the busted bolt for the clutch housing until later, and said that it was broken before he started and probably will leave it the way it was.
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Originally Posted by wizkid918
the bolt that holds the sensor bracket goes into the block. and that is the one in the first picture that i am refering to, and the one i was under the impression has been giving him a hard time. I didnt think he noticed the busted bolt for the clutch housing until later, and said that it was broken before he started and probably will leave it the way it was.
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Another week, no progress . . . .
Did look at a few angle drills.
The weather has been nice and the Honda 919 wanted attention.
944 is in the background.
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I just read where the engine drops easily out the bottom, doh, no wonder the freaking instructions were pizzing me off, I was reading it thinking it came out the top.
Did look at a few angle drills.
The weather has been nice and the Honda 919 wanted attention.
944 is in the background.
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I just read where the engine drops easily out the bottom, doh, no wonder the freaking instructions were pizzing me off, I was reading it thinking it came out the top.
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Originally Posted by MY83944
Another week, no progress . . . .
Did look at a few angle drills.
The weather has been nice and the Honda 919 wanted attention.
944 is in the background.
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I just read where the engine drops easily out the bottom, doh, no wonder the freaking instructions were pizzing me off, I was reading it thinking it came out the top.
Did look at a few angle drills.
The weather has been nice and the Honda 919 wanted attention.
944 is in the background.
![](http://forums.cycleworld.com/groupee_files/photo_albums/7/2/1/7210099721/9210099721_8BB96580EA4569CE374A47F6117A0117.jpg)
I just read where the engine drops easily out the bottom, doh, no wonder the freaking instructions were pizzing me off, I was reading it thinking it came out the top.
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The car is supposed to be inverted though. So "top" and "bottom" are sometimes confused. You mean they forgot to mention that little detail?
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Well, February 25th and I have made little progress.
I have assembled the pressure plate/throw out bearing.
Decided to bolt the sensor bracket up with the one remaining bolt. When everything else required is together and it is adjusted, out comes the JB Weld.
My son is coming in next weekend, the goal is to get this 944 back together and on the road.
I am going to try and get the pilot bearing removed and the new one installed. The water valve changed out, the flywheel on and possibly the sensor bracket issue resolved.
Might also try and get the new o2 sensor wired in, heck, the farther I get the more time my son and I can spend together driving it.
He is 21, any time together is cool IMO.
I have assembled the pressure plate/throw out bearing.
Decided to bolt the sensor bracket up with the one remaining bolt. When everything else required is together and it is adjusted, out comes the JB Weld.
My son is coming in next weekend, the goal is to get this 944 back together and on the road.
I am going to try and get the pilot bearing removed and the new one installed. The water valve changed out, the flywheel on and possibly the sensor bracket issue resolved.
Might also try and get the new o2 sensor wired in, heck, the farther I get the more time my son and I can spend together driving it.
He is 21, any time together is cool IMO.
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Sunday, February 26th (?)
Sunny, cool.
Into the garage I did go. Removed the rear main seal and pilot bearing.
Installed new pilot bearing and main seal.
Replaced the water valve.
Did not have fun, it was work. No safety glasses, antifreeze in the eyes a few times, lots of flushing.
All of the small amount of antifreeze found its way into either my eye or in my chest.
The car is just high enough off the ground to work on, making it just too high to work on from above.
Not fun, actually.
I am taking a break, progress was made. Pilot bearing was a snap. Main big round seal was a PIA.
Flywheel next, then try to mount/adjust the sensor bracket and JB Weld it in place.
The rest should be a lot less frustrating, it has go to be.
Sunny, cool.
Into the garage I did go. Removed the rear main seal and pilot bearing.
Installed new pilot bearing and main seal.
Replaced the water valve.
Did not have fun, it was work. No safety glasses, antifreeze in the eyes a few times, lots of flushing.
All of the small amount of antifreeze found its way into either my eye or in my chest.
The car is just high enough off the ground to work on, making it just too high to work on from above.
Not fun, actually.
I am taking a break, progress was made. Pilot bearing was a snap. Main big round seal was a PIA.
Flywheel next, then try to mount/adjust the sensor bracket and JB Weld it in place.
The rest should be a lot less frustrating, it has go to be.
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I know the frustration because I just started a similar project about 4 days ago. Its an automatic and by the time I know it, then turned into an entire engine reseal. The entire engine is out of the car and I took the head off it just to freshen it up and change the head gasket since everything else is getting changed. I got the head back from the machine shop, did the rear main and pilot bearing, PUT A CLUTCH IN PLACE OF THE AUTOMATIC DAMPER (defy the idiotic Porsche design any way I can - damn, why didn't they just use springs?), and am about to replace all the seals in the front including the o rings for the balance shafts. I want to get it all back together because what started out as a one day job of replacing the damper turned into a multi day projecting blocking the driveway and its gonna rain for the next 2 days. Hope that makes you feel better.