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Old 03-09-2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Kudos to Travis/Rennbay!

Sent off the cash this week and he evidently shipped before he got it. Did 2nd day shipping and the lines got here this morning and are now on the car and the car ......STARTS! YES!!! Amazing how a little fuel pressure loss prevents start up.



But not holding my breath yet, still need to fire it up on a cold morning to completely rule out the intermittent starting.

So my hats off to a fine parts provider for sending sooner than expected and being here for us with good parts and service!!

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Old 03-09-2005, 05:13 PM
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Maybe someday he will do early lines
Old 03-09-2005, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by father2nate
Maybe someday he will do early lines
Is there a difference? The damper and FPR have the same fittings? Rubber lines crimp on the hard lines?
Old 03-09-2005, 05:20 PM
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Jonathan, we're all waiting for that day but it isn't easy because of the way the lines work...... No matter what, all early cars will either need the entire fuel line replaced (from the fuel rail all the way back to the fuel pump) or some sort of cutting and reclamping of hoses onto the metal fuel line...

The former is a huge pain and expensive. The later is skilled labor which requires experience and tools i don't have. So i'm going to be taking my 944 in to have it professional done unfortunately.
Old 03-09-2005, 05:22 PM
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I once shipped earlier as a convenience to the buyer - only to not receive payment for several weeks.

Travis has faith in his customers; that's definitely commendable.
Old 03-09-2005, 05:25 PM
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I am missing something. Mine have the 2 hard lines and took the new lines fine no flaring at all, no cutting except the old crimp.

What does the early 944 have for lines? Pics?
Old 03-09-2005, 05:36 PM
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Dgz924S: The early 944's have two hard lines which come up on the driver's side along the firewall. The soft lines are then crimped onto the hard lines (and are tough to get to, let me add). The soft lines then screw on to the fuel rail (just like the later ones)... So it is the connection between the 2 hard lines and the soft lines which i sthe problem. If my digital camera was working, i'd try to take a pic and post... The older style fuel lines are NOT shown in PET6 either...
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Buy them then! I just replaced 2 and the hard lines are below the brake booster. Tight spot to cut the crimp off but definitely can be done. Once the crimp is off just slide the hose end on and clamp with the provided clamps.
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The first picture gives you an idea on the engine where the hard fuel lines come in. The second is a close-up of the connection. (Sorry for the shadow)
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That is exactly where mine are so the Rennbay lines will work on all early/late 944's. It takes some SKILZ to do it but doable! I cut the hose off at the crimp then took a hacksaw blade and scored a groove in the crimps from top to bottom. I then took a dremel tool and cut the crimp along the scored line. I then peeled some of the crimp back to create a lip to grab on to w/heavy needle nose pliers and peeled it off enough to slip it off the hard line. The crimp spins so the line must be held by vice grips or another helper to keep it steady while peeling the crimp off.

The area is a very tight spot so it takes some time to do and need the correct tools. Make sure that the brake booster vacuum line is moved and the reference/speed sensor plugs are out of the way. Many lines in the area and you don't want to damage them.
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Dal: Did the new crimp come alogn with the RennBay kit?
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There is a correction here. The Rennbay lines work with the 924S because it uses the late fuel rail with the early locations for the hard lines. Then they only worked for Dal because he informed me first that he had a 924S and I had to increase the lengths of the hoses.
The problem with the early rails is that they use a different size fitting for the "IN" line. I should have fittings for that size in the next few weeks for you early guys.
As Dal said, it is a little more of a pain to cut the crimps with the hard lines in the early cars locations but it is not impossible.
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Good to know.. Travis i'll be on the lookout for when you get the fittings for the early cars... I can't do anything with my car until that time so i'm really looking forward to you having these...

-Steve
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Ok Travis that makes sense. Figured the fitting size were the same on early models.



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