Matt Olde, Do you have an update on the 944S3 project?
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Hey Matt, have you been able to get the S3 started?
I have a lot of interest in this, as I have decided to keep my car (I have been seriously thinking about selling it for the last two weeks, but that feeling has finally passed <thank god>). My plans are to possibly skip the winter paint job project (I'll let you know XSBOOST!) and start working toward a 968 3.0 swap.
I've been thinking about a 968 3.0 swap for a long time, Pete and I have discussed this one over several beers in the past. This would be the icing for my "944 ClubSport" project. Lightweight, great suspension, no frills, no lag, and lot's of power.
So......................................................I'd love to hear that you had a happy ending to your project, and also want to get a detailed parts list and "what not to do's" from you once all is done...............
Plus, I really want to hear your input on how the car runs/drives after the change...
Thanks for being a pioneer,
Jeremy
I have a lot of interest in this, as I have decided to keep my car (I have been seriously thinking about selling it for the last two weeks, but that feeling has finally passed <thank god>). My plans are to possibly skip the winter paint job project (I'll let you know XSBOOST!) and start working toward a 968 3.0 swap.
I've been thinking about a 968 3.0 swap for a long time, Pete and I have discussed this one over several beers in the past. This would be the icing for my "944 ClubSport" project. Lightweight, great suspension, no frills, no lag, and lot's of power.
So......................................................I'd love to hear that you had a happy ending to your project, and also want to get a detailed parts list and "what not to do's" from you once all is done...............
Plus, I really want to hear your input on how the car runs/drives after the change...
Thanks for being a pioneer,
Jeremy
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I'll help all that I can with the swap.
Matt is real close, I think he's having a wiring problem with the alarm that's preventing it from starting.
Matt is real close, I think he's having a wiring problem with the alarm that's preventing it from starting.
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Originally Posted by 944pete
I'll help all that I can with the swap.
Originally Posted by 944pete
Matt is real close, I think he's having a wiring problem with the alarm that's preventing it from starting.
The other things that are a big questionmark are the torque tube, clutch, and bell-housing. The exhaust will have to be custom, I know. Fabricating a solution for the airbox will be easy as I can use the stuff for an S2 and stick it under the header panel on my car.
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Torque tube will be fine. You need an S or S2 bellhousing and flywheel. The 16V engines have one ref. sensor instead of two. For exhaust you'll need the 968 or S2 manifold and have a custom job done from the collector to the cat.
What tranny do you have in there now? I don't think the NA trans would be strong enough. A 951 or S2 trans would be ideal.
What tranny do you have in there now? I don't think the NA trans would be strong enough. A 951 or S2 trans would be ideal.
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Originally Posted by 944pete
Torque tube will be fine. You need an S or S2 bellhousing and flywheel. The 16V engines have one ref. sensor instead of two. For exhaust you'll need the 968 or S2 manifold and have a custom job done from the collector to the cat.
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What tranny do you have in there now? I don't think the NA trans would be strong enough. A 951 or S2 trans would be ideal.
I think Matt is doing the same thing, no?
Isn't there a guy from Dayton that lives off Wayne Ave that popped into Rennlist last year, that has a 944 with a 968 motor in it? We should stalk him down and pick his brain, plus check out the car in person.
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If you get a complete 968 motor with bellhousing, you would need a 968 torque tube. The 968 bellhousing is bigger and 2 piece.
If you use an S or S2 bellhousing you can keep your present torque tube.
If you use an S or S2 bellhousing you can keep your present torque tube.
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tifo,
If you go threw with this project keep us updated!! Your car will definitely be even sweeter with that 3.0L sitting between the front frame rails, great low end torque for autocrossing. fun, fun, fun..
If you go threw with this project keep us updated!! Your car will definitely be even sweeter with that 3.0L sitting between the front frame rails, great low end torque for autocrossing. fun, fun, fun..
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If you do decide to do it, let me know. I will fly down and help, just need to know a few weeks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Matt Marks
See the wiring diagram here
My 968 Swap was from an 944S, so it was a little easier. Don't have a whole lot of BTDT as my mechanic did the swap. However, I can offer whatever assistance from a technical perpsecitive that I can.
Matt
My 968 Swap was from an 944S, so it was a little easier. Don't have a whole lot of BTDT as my mechanic did the swap. However, I can offer whatever assistance from a technical perpsecitive that I can.
Matt
OK, so, how does your car drive with the swap? Keep the original transmission? Any issues? Thanks!
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Noones going to pay near enough what he put into it, ESPECIALLY with the car not even running- any prospective buyer would be taking a huge chance that the problem is simply the DME, as he suggests, and not something serious
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Noones going to pay near enough what he puit into it, ESPECIALLY with the car not even running- any prospective buyer would be taking a huge chance that the problem is the DME, as he suggests